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post Sep 11 2011, 07:06 PM
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This is a topic for Finnish news relating to Ginga following the successful release of Hopeanuoli. Please feel free to post links to any news you wish to notify Finnish members of the board, regardless of whether the english-readers can read it or not! Any and all brief translations are greatly appreciated so we can keep up to date on how Finland is doing (:


QUOTE (Tora @ Sep 11 2011, 04:20 PM) *
I found something intresting!!

A video of Yoshi in Finland: http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/huippusuo...8411494195.html

Article about Yoshi (in Finnish): http://www.lumonetti.fi/portaali/viihde/sa...ampereella.html

How Weed manga will look like: http://animelehti.fi/2011/09/05/weed-punai...-jattilaiselta/


Translation please? ^^



QUOTE (Fairy @ Sep 11 2011, 04:41 PM) *
Here's the translation:

Punainen Jättiläinen (Red Giant) publishes Yoshihiro Takahashi's manga Ginga Densetsu Weed with the name Weed.

Two first pocketbooks will be published in December. Fact is told in last week published Meteor Gin's last page's advertisement.

60-pocketbooks long Weed is set-off sequel for Takahashi's most known work, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin. It tells about Gin's son Weed and came out in Nihon Bungeishan Weekly Manga Goraku-magazine years 1999-2009.

Takahashi visited in Finland last week.
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post Sep 11 2011, 07:35 PM
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Here's the translation for the video:

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Interviewer: Why is it so popular here?
Takahashi: I don't know the exact reason why, but it may have something to do with the fact that there aren't many comics that many generations of people could read together.

Interviewer: If you were to make a comic that takes place in Finland, what would it be like?
Takahashi: A Moomin like forest, but a little darker.

Interviewer: Would there be an animal character in the lead?
Takahashi: Perhaps something close what I'm doing now, a wolf perhaps.

Interviewer: What advice do you have for a budding comic artist?
Takahashi: You can become a comic artist if you like what you do. Drawing is hard work so it helps if you enjoy doing it. Then it won't feel nearly as hard or tiring.
Not only drawing the pictures, but also telling the story is fun - along with the fact that the characters you made up work. Telling their stories is part of the work.

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A Super popular manga artist visited Finland
Helsinki enjoyed the company of a japanese comic artist.

Yoshihiro Takahashi, the artist behind the story of bearhound Gin, revealed among other things what is required from a budding comic artist.

With the experience he has, he's the right one to give these advice.

The man has scripted and drawn his series during the years 1983-1987. The animation based on it and it's sequel Weed DVD's have sold over 200 000 copies.

He thinks drawing is hard work.
-It helps if you like what you're doing, he comments.

Takahashi also tells us what a comic based in Finland would be like.
- Moomin like forests, he says and smiles.


EDIT: Old piece of news (dated before Tracon). But since it was new to me I'll post the link. Translation below:
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Translation:
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Comic piracy bothers the creator of the popular manga Hopeanuoli

The creator of the popular Hopeanuoli (Ginga Nagareboshi Gin) manga Yoshihiro Takahashi is currently visiting Finland. While on his first visit in our country the mangaka told YleX that his popular manga series has been a victim of piracy in recent years. One can find cheap copies of the man's works especially in Taiwan.

Takahashi says that he was originally amused by the piracy directed at his books, but later discovered that it wasn't just one or two pieces, but that copies of Ginga were on the market in large amounts. The mangaka urges Taiwan and other countries take up better monitoring of copyrights.

Is the popularity because of our sympathy towards animals?

Takahashi's Hopeanuoli series is immensely popular in Finland. The anime based on the manga was very popular at the end of the 80's, and now the new generation has found the original mangas that have been translated into Finnish. Takahashi says that he's very glad and surprised by his popularity in Ginland. He himself appreciates the moral teachings behind his own work and thinks it's great that the message of right and wrong is received so well by many others as well.

At Helsinki's Akateeminen kirjakauppa, a 26-year-old Nadja Vahlqvist waited for Takahashi's arrival. She believes that the reason for his success in Finland is obvious.

- It's the dogs. Finns are animal people and especially dog people. That must be the reason. People like the anime and the manga is now a huge success. First they've watched the VHS tapes, then they've found out it's a manga, that there's a sequel for it and now they're getting it in Finnish! It's incredibly that we've gotten the creator in Finland now, too. I wouldn't have believed this when I was a kid.

Dog stories appeal to the people

The Ginga series has sold over 20 million copies in Japan. Also it's sequel Weed is close to breaking the amount of 20 million copies. At this time, however, Takahashi is working in Tokyo on a manga directed at adult audiences

While in Finland, Takahashi takes part in an anime-and roleplaying convention Tracon. A ginga themed musical will be performed there, along with several seminars about the hit-manga. One of the panels carries the name “Ginga s*cks”.


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post Sep 20 2011, 10:12 PM
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Sorry about the double post, but I thought I'd give this a bump as I edited my previous post with an older news article I found.

Also, this is not directly Ginga related, but in any case.
http://www.seiska.fi/seiskatv/_a225509/vic...uun++tassa+syy/

The prince and princess of Sweden visited Finland. They went to Turku, and guess who they met? Our beloved Mikael Luotolahti and his friend.
Mikael played Gin in the Ginga musical at Tracon. What did the guys do? Sang to the royal couple..with a guitar. XD
I can't make out what they're singing..but it amused them, for sure.
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post Sep 21 2011, 05:12 AM
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Victoria and Daniel?

Ah, I wichMikael Luotolahti mentioned Hopeanuoli, even just one mention. (well, I can dream right? XD)
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Haha, the cast has published the lyrics in their blog here:

http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/2...rialle/#more-44

Via this link, you can also find the link to the blog the cast is starting to keep. It's probably going to be in Finnish, but if you're interested in what the Ginga musical cast is doing, here's the place.
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post Sep 21 2011, 06:54 PM
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Thanks for the link Sandy. ^^
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Just a random announcement:
The Ginga musical cast advertised the translation I did for the musical. And they linked to Ginga Board's Tracon archive. So, in a way, they advertised our GB.

Also, I'm trying to get my hands on the newest Finnish magazine called Anime (that came out about a month ago, yes..I'm late).

I heard it has Takahashi's interview in it and some stuff from Tracon. If I can still find it, I'll try to get it and translate some of it for you guys.
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post Oct 15 2011, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Oct 15 2011, 08:51 PM) *
Also, I'm trying to get my hands on the newest Finnish magazine called Anime (that came out about a month ago, yes..I'm late).

I heard it has Takahashi's interview in it and some stuff from Tracon. If I can still find it, I'll try to get it and translate some of it for you guys.
Ah, yeah, last Anime had a four page long interview (though one full page had Takahashi's pic) and a couple of pages about Tracon.

Sandy, I'll let you translate the interview and the Tracon article if you want. ;D
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QUOTE (Kretari @ Oct 15 2011, 09:05 PM) *
Ah, yeah, last Anime had a four page long interview (though one full page had Takahashi's pic) and a couple of pages about Tracon.

Sandy, I'll let you translate the interview and the Tracon article if you want. ;D


That'd be great! =D Thank you! (I'm still going to look for the magazine, but this way's faster. ;D)
Maybe you can upload pictures or something somewhere (photobucket?) and send me the links via PM?
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post Oct 16 2011, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Kretari @ Oct 15 2011, 07:05 PM) *
Sandy, I'll let you translate the interview and the Tracon article if you want. ;D


I support this statement C8
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QUOTE (Arano @ Oct 16 2011, 06:32 PM) *
I support this statement C8


She has sent me the scans now and I've already started translating. ;D
You guys should have the translations soon.
From what I can tell so far, at least the Takahashi interview is pretty interesting. I'll link the translations here after I'm done with them, along with a link to the scans Kretari has put up so you can see the pictures as well.
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Ahh excellent! I think this is another think I'll add to the Tracon archive.

You guys rule, thank you so much =D
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Okay, here goes! If some of the translations appear wacky, do forgive me. The text in the magazine is pretty expressive and as such, rather difficult to try and translate. So I've taken some artistic liberties here and there to make the text more clear while still maintaining the meaning of it.

Scans provided by Kretari, can be seen here.
Scan of the Meteor Gin review: Here
Translations by: Me

Takahashi's interview:
Headline:
Yoshihiro Takahashi, The world of males

Page 1

Blue box on the right:
Ginga series

Ginga Nagareboshi Gin (Hopeanuoli)
Shueisha Weekly Shonen Jump – magazine, 1983-1987
- Tells the story of bearhound Gin. 18 volumes long. Was adapted into an 21 episode long anime in 1986.

Ginga Densetsu Weed
Nihon Bungeishan Weekly Manga Goraku – magazine, 1999-2009
- Is about Gin's puppy, Weed. 60 volumes long. Was adapted into an 26 episode long anime in 2005.

Ginga Densetsu Weed: Orion
Nihon Bungeishan Weekly Manga Goraku -magazine, 2009-
- Is about Gin's puppies Orion, Rigel, Bellatrix and Sirius. Is, at the moment, 11 volumes long and still on-going.

Ingress:
Tammi, the owner of Punainen Jättiläinen and Sangatsu Manga, organized for the creator of Hopeanuoli Yoshihiro Takahashi to visit Finland at the beginning of September.
In addition to several book shop visits Takahashi also visited Tracon at Tampere, where we interviewed him.

Interview:

Even though Hopeanuoli is very well known in Finland, not many here know that you've done other works as well. Could you tell us a bit more of them?
- Those that have been published as pocket books have been sports series. I had a baseball manga, and a karate manga, and a football manga.. Although that last one never was published as a pocket book.
- “Shiroi senshi Yamato”, the story of a fighting dog and his owner is probably my most famous non-Ginga publication. Oh yeah, there was something else besides sports and dogs, too – there was one police manga. It appeared in a magazine meant for slightly more mature audiences.

Appearantly, you are most in Japan as well for your dog stories? At your home region Higashinaruse one can find a Ginga themed mureau, too?
- On the wall of the town hall, yes. It's about 4m x 10m in size. I drew a picture for it, and it got copied onto the wall.

What was the reason, then, that after so many other manga series you decided to try a series based on dogs in particular?
- Hmm, my readers decided it. The best reader feedback I got came from the dog mangas specifically, so that was the start of it. And as already said, I am nowadays seen as the drawer of animal themed series.
- The reason for trying it with dogs was merely the fact that I like dogs.

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In all series of the Ginga-saga, being brave and manly are the main values.

Speaking of reader feedback...that's one of the things that the Shonen Jump magazine is famous for. Have you drawn other things for the Jump besides Ginga?
- Yes, for a long time after Ginga as well because I had a publication contract with them that I could not quit even though Ginga had already ended. But Orion appears in the Weekly Manga Goraku, that belongs to Nihon Bungeisha instead of Shueisha. Weed also appeared in that magazine.
- Nowadays I get rather many requests from other publishers, but pretty much all of them are asking for dog related series.

Dogs, bears and bearhounds

The Ginga series are pretty much old style fighting stories meant for boys. In them, being manly, patriotic and following other hard samurai-style values are in a central role. Dogs, perhaps, in particular fit these roles very well as they are known of their loyalty towards their masters. What do you think of this?
- I am under the impression that when human characters yell cool, flamboyant lines, young readers don't accept them as they are. When the characters are animals, even some of the cliché and melodramatic lines somehow feel more natural.
- Maybe it is slightly similar to the way how kids shut their ears when adults are preaching to them, but eagerly listen to the advice and teachings of animal characters.

Dog -themed fighting stories don't really seem to exist besides your work, even though other dog series do exist. Do you think that this might be affected by the fact that you've become such a big name in the field that all new mangas would just be compared to you?
- This is probably what has happened. Dog mangas do indeed exist, but those stories are mostly humorous in nature.

Animal characters and humor seem to be a rather traditional, working combination...
- For example, Makoto Kobayashi's cat-themed humor series “What's Michael?” is very popular.

Bears in the Ginga series are very visible as the adversaries of ultimate evil, although later on we see wolves and even gene manipulated dogs in Weed. What made you make bears the villains? Did old folk stories or facts, such as the famous Sankebetsu bear case from 1915 affect this decision?
- The one where the bear who awoke from it's hibernation killed villagers in Hokkaido? Yes, I've read “Kuma arashi”, the book written based on the case. I think it might've affected my choice somewhat.

I read that the villagers at that time were saved by an outsider bear hunter that went out to track the bear despite the warnings of an impending snow storm. It reminded me of Ginga. Especially at the beginning where the setting is explained – people live in the far north near nature with guns and dogs, bears right next door.
- In my childhood that's pretty much how people lived, so the environment is very familiar. Even the rifles were bolt action ones like in the manga. A man known as a very tough bear hunter lived in the region those days. He had an akita that had been trained as a bearhound that I especially admired.

Development of the plot

The plot in Ginga is structured in an interesting way. Troops divided into squadrons are sent to look for reinforcements and when they eventually return, Akakabuto has set up a fortress on a mountain and set up his generals to defend it. The dogs must defeat those in order. This all reminds me of some sort of a war story set in the Sengoku period...

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- Console games started to become popular in Japan at that time so I thought that a similar structure with smaller boss fights might be fun in the manga, too. Of course, in real life bears don't build up fortresses or behave in that way.
- The original idea was to end the story when the large dog pack sets out to attack the bears and leave the ending open. My publisher, however, asked that I would give the readers a proper battle.

The series continued even after Akakabuto had been defeated. Was this also something the publisher wished for?
- Yes, that's right. I continued the series with the wolf arc. However, that never got very popular and the series was ended after that.

I hear that that's what often happens in the Jump. Gin ended there, but Weed appeared in surprisingly many volumes after that. Quite many years passed in-between and even the magazine was directed at a slightly older audience. Do you believe that most of the fans of Weed have previously been fans of Gin?
- It would seem that these cases do happen rather frequently indeed. Those that had been kids while reading Gin also read Weed and recommended the series to their children as well.

It seems that as the millenia changed, a lot of the series started were nostalgic continuations to older readers that had read the mangaka's creations when they were younger. For example your previous assistant Tetsuo Hara started the “Fist of the Blue Sky” as an indirect continuation to “Fist of the North Star”...
- Actually, Weed might've been one of the first mangas of this kind. When it was published, others started appearing as well. Along with “Fist of the North Star”, “Kinnikuman” also got a continuation, and “City Hunter”'s characters appeared in “Angel Heart” - these are the ones I can think of. I think it might've been the hype at that time.

Life as a Shonen Jump mangaka


What was it like to draw for Shonen Jump in the 80's? The magazine was rather different then than it was in the 90´s or now – the editor-in-chief was someone else back then and his opinions were rather visible in the series published.
- Indeed. The editor of the “Fist of the North Star” became the magazine's editor-in-chief and because the series had been such a hit, he made the whole magazine a rather tough, serious, and action filled. This eventually affected the popularity of the magazine so it wasn't a very good decision.

The magazine went from humor to serious action, and it wasn't until “Dragon Ball” that the humor started to come back.
- On the other hand “Dragon Ball” started as a humorous series and developed into a a more serious series later on. It seems to be rather common, this also happened to “Kinnikuman”.
- My guess is that the partial reason to this more serious attitude and fighting was affected by the popularity of the console games that appeared around the same time.

How does drawing for magazines smaller than Jump differ from drawing to Jump?
- Content-wise there's not much of a difference as I'm asked for a similar manga that I used to draw for Jump. However, in-between I used to draw a football series directed at younger kids and needed to think more of the content for that reason. Drawing for smaller magazines is, of course, more free than drawing for Jump – you can do pretty much what you want.
- Back then, Shueisha tried to put more focus on publishing magazines than pocket books so the competition at Jump was hard. Even if the pocket books would've sold for many copies, if your popularity in the magazine's popularity ratings dropped, it probably cancelled the whole series. Nowadays this is not done.
- On average, 16 new series started in the Jump every year, so in that regard my time at the Jump was very tough, almost war-like. Fortunately Gin started when the magazine's popularity was going up. At it's best, 6,5 million copies of Jump were printed per week, and 90 percent of the print was sold.

At the time both “Dragon Ball” and “Slam Dunk” were very popular. After that they both ended in the years 1995 and 1996.
- Those and Yu Yu Hakusho in 1994. These were at the time the top three that defined the direction the rest of us took.

Jump has traditionally been the magazine for young and aspiring new manga artists. Originally it had to be that because the new magazine couldn't get any famous mangakas, but nowadays these new artists are the basis of the magazine and seen as the secret of it's success.
- You said it. It's much easier to get into Jump to test your skills than many other magazines but it's also easier to be dropped out. This happens to most and it almost happened to me, too.

Getting lines on paper

What sort of routine does your work have during the week now that there's no immediate danger of becoming un-employed and the pace of the work isn't as hectic either as it used to be when you were younger?
- The amount of free time hasn't really increased even though I've become a much faster drawer. Nowadays I draw 24 pages of Orion per week. The actual drawing takes 3 days with the help of assistants and the rest of the time is spent thinking about the story.

Do you still use the same drawing techniques and methods as you did earlier?
- Yes, I still use the same methods. In planning stages I sketch the whole spread, the frames and where the characters are in them. After that the assistants copy those to their own sketchbooks.
- After I've drawn the characters I pass the pages on to the assistants. They will draw the backgrounds and add the shading as instructed.

One would think that dogs are a rather tough choice for fighting stories as their body language and expressions are more limited than a human's. Even the fighting techniques are mostly biting and tossing someone around. How do you keep things new and interesting?
- That's one of the biggest problems! Trying to balance between realism – especially when it comes to realistic, real dog breeds – and the expressiveness of the characters is difficult. Expressions are especially tricky. For example I have sometimes had to use drops of sweat on their faces, even though dogs don't sweat at all in real life.

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To make battles more diverse the dogs, for example, jump in trees and dig tunnels.

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“Originally I had planned that the dogs in the series wouldn't speak at all.”

Speaking dogs and Finns

Gin starts of as a rather different series than what the Ginga-saga developed to be later on. Did you originally plan to leave the human characters out later on and focus mainly on dogs?
- No. Originally I had planned that the dogs in the series wouldn't speak at all and that the series would continue in the same way throughout it all. However, even after thirteen weeks – volume number 3 – the series had not become very popular and the talk to have it cancelled started.
- The publishers suggested that I should try making the dogs speak. I decided to do so even though I had originally thought that it would not be wise. And then the popularity started to grow.

And then you continued the same for a few decades.
- Yes. Perhaps it had been difficult for the readers to get inside the dogs' thoughts and life without speech.

True. Otherwise you'd have to use narration all the time which is a little old fashioned.
- It would also lead to too much text and the manga would become too tasking to read.
- I have continued this same saga for quite a while now as Orion features the third generation already. Sometimes I wonder if the readers are getting bored. For now I have not gotten any ideas for strong enough characters that would allow me to move away from the Ginga and focus on something else.

Hopeanuoli is evidently very popular hear in the Nordic Countries, especially in Finland. It is barely known in America and it's place as a nostalgic classic has pretty much been taken by “Dragon Ball Z”. Why do you think this is?
- Perhaps there's something in common between the Japanese and the Finns.

Do you mean that both are reserved and slightly sullen people who live close to the nature?
- Perhaps so. Originally I thought that it might be the snowstorms and the environment that appeal to the Finns. However, now that I am here in Finland and have seen some of the local wildlife I have also come to the conclusion that maybe the thing in common are our characters.
- When the people here have come for autographs they have not made noise, pushed or rushed straight up to me. Instead they have been rather shy and respected my personal space.

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“The traditional way to draw blood splatter is to blow on a brush dipped in ink.”

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“The additional Ginga story Takahashi dedicated to Finnish Ginga fans.”

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Tracon VI
Progress, revolution and Hopeanuoli


The small, local convention that only costed a few euros to attend in the past has grown into a mass event by the time of it's sixth coming. Tracon really improved it's status this year with a high profile japanese honour guest and with the fact that it was open day and night. Progress brought results: Tracon announced later that their final attendance count was over 1,400 visitors. On Finland's scale, that is a lot.

It wasn't until last year that Tracon really stood up to the challenge and moved to Tampere hall. With this they announced that they would take part in the neverending battle for the title of Finland's best con. Even though they did not win many votes that year, the con on 2010 was an unrefined diamond for many of the visitors.
This year Tracon upped the ante. For anime fans they managed to get the creator of Hopeanuoli, mangaka Yoshihiro Takahashi. For this alone, the ticket prices nearly doubled. On the other hand, the organizing of the event also went better than last year. As a whole, the event also felt more united and complete than before.

Tampere hall, always as glorious

The Tampere hall as a con location is simply brilliant – the building is well-lit and spacious and there are many different auditoriums and room sof the programs to use. The location is very good as well as all the services needed are nearby, the train station included. For the second year in a row, Tracon has had in it's hands one of Finland's best locations to hold a convention. In the end, the road to a successful convention needs much more.
All in all, everything worked out pretty well. There were no big issues with the basic set up, even though some of the minor details still need to be worked on. For example the interview had via Skype with the director of “Eureka 7”, Tomoki Kyoda, was a very interesting idea indeed.
Virtually the concept didn't work out as well. Not that many interested fans arrived for the program as it had been first announced in the opening ceremony and wasn't advertised ever since until the last minute calls. It takes more than a few A4 advertisements on billboards to attract people's attention. It might've also helped if the people at the info desk would've known something about Kyoda.
In the line queueing for Takahashi's autograph tickets we saw some of the biggest failures of the weekend, when the queue that had already formed up (though in the wrong place) was broken up to a confused mass before the announcement of the real queueing location. Trying to organize a new queue in the disorganized mass was easier said than done and the behaviour of the bouncers at that time was hardly tactful.
The information flow in terms of the cosplay tickets didn't go ideally, either. For many this new ticket queueing system was new and wasn't even known about until they queued up to the main auditorium to get inside. Information about the system was given here and there, yes but in the end the most logical location for it would've been in the con program magazine's cosplay introduction. Fortunately, both of these mishaps were admitted and greatly apolgised for afterwards.

Tracon is Hopeanuolicon (Note: Tracon is Gingacon..XD)

For the fans of Hopeanuoli Tracon was the highlight of the year. In addition to Takahashi's interviews and autograph events, the fanws were spoiled with Hopeanuoli!musikaali. Based on the feedback, this was one of the best events in Tracon. The musical completely filled the small auditorium and many didn't even fit inside.
The time and effort used to make Hopeanuoli!musikaali got the conclusion it deserved when Takahashi himself managed to come in to see the end of it. Takahashi is said to have cried, laughed and thanked everyone in the cast personally afterwards.
Hopeanuoli was also otherwise visible in Tracon – an exhibit about Ginga merchandise had been put up and a few panels were also held on the subject.

Everything for everyone, nothing for no one

Tracon has, from it's beginning, also been a roleplaying event in addition to anime. This divide was also seen in the programs. In the end the amount of anime themed programs was fairly small..

(continued on page 2)

..and even the small amount didn't really seem to be anime in the way that had been hoped. For example, the panel “Patlabor in Fukushima” could've needed more anime-themed views.
Programs that had been recycled from other conventions were visible in bundles. This was exceptionally clear in the fan selected honor guest Janne Kemppi's programs.
Kemppi did hold an impressive 12 hours of panels in total, but the amount of material that would've never been seen before was minimal.
From the anime programs one should mention Matias Tukiainen's “Naked in anime” panel (from which those with Saturday tickets were unfortunately kicked out of well before hand) and Heidi Päivinen's impressive recollection of the Macross product family.
Also, Mikko Lammi's the “Suurin Pätijä” ( Translator's note: “The Biggest Know-it-all”) the quiz that was held for the 2nd time now provided us with lots of entertainment.
Desucon's team won for the second time in a row, led by Riku Mikkonen who's also interviewed in this magazine. The other teams also answered their questions, if not correctly, then at least in a very entertaining way.
From an anime fan's perpective Tracon's programs left a rather confusing impression. What was the specific target audience?
In very few of the programs did the attendees get more than a scrape of the surface and most of the long-time fans were not offered much of value.
Those few who like anime in addition to roleplaying were the ones that got the most out of the convention and it's programs. For everyone else, it was hardly ideal.

Revolutionary orange

Tracon's theme, “Police state and revolution” faired much better than the rest of the programs. The great LARP (Note: Live action role play) built into the con itself gathered hundreds of eager participants in the end who together overthrew the fictional emperor from power and liberated the people of “Traconia”.
The theme was well executed and a fun addition to the convention that in other ways slightly lacked on it's entertainment side.
In the programs, the theme was mostly only visible in Kemppi's panels, but in reality that is pretty okay – we prefer to see anime programs out of many subjects rather than something restricted to a single topic, anyway.
In general, Tracon exceeded all expectations. The same issues with a rather empty program menu that bothered Tracon in previous years was also a problem now.
Especially when combined to the fact that the con was open day and night, it left way too many opportunities for the attendees to get bored and just hang about with nothing to do.
It is a shame that from an active anime fan's perspective the success of the con was determined by finding not finding more than a few programs when getting them probably would not have been impossible.
Otherwise the organizers did a very good job if one doesn't count the few problems mentioned previously.
The biggest issue Tracon still has is probably is't division as an anime and as a roleplaying event. Such a combination pleases very few properly – for everyone else, it's a compromise. It's hard to consider Tracon as an serious event for anime fans when it doesn't really even try to be one.
This year, those who got the most out of Tracon were probably the fans of Hopeanuoli. They will probably remember Tracon as the best con ever. For most it was undeniably a good con, but there's still some way to go until perfection. However, the direction they're going is the right one and Tracon has already secured it's place as one of Finland's best and most noticeable conventions.

Text in the middle:
“In general, Tracon exceeded all expectations.”

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Meteor Gin
A big bundle of information for Ginga fans

The fans of Gin have recently been spoiled rotten. The living legend of dog comics, Yoshihiro Takahashi, visited Finland and did some premium promotion work first in Helsinki and then at Tampere.
Aside from public appearances and interviews, one could find Takahashi-sensei's thoughts from the shopping booths. There you could find not only the special first edition Ginga manga but also the well-visible, philoshophic and witty puns entailing Ginga encyclopedia Meteor Gin.
Takahashi's opinions seemed to interest Finnish fans on a wide scale. Meteor Gin was a welcome publication for all of the fans who are dying to know more of the Ginga universe. The published work has Takahashi's interview, introduces some of his assistants, reviews the main points of the plot and introduces the main characters. Additionally, the book also has written analyses of the key battles, 30 questions from readers along with their answers and funny album pictures and witty quotes from along the years.
Even this is not enough, for the book also includes many columns of doggy mischief, a board game, a character map and a dog horoscope. A colored attachment also has a map that shows all the journeys the dogs took across Japan. Meteor Gin is a really comprehensive package for a book of 192 pages.

Tackling mistakes with humor

The purpose of the book is probably Takahashi's desire to wrap up separate story threads and to leave Gin in history as complete of a piece as possible. We Finns have come a long way from the moment of confusion that we experienced when, at the end of the VHS tapes, Riki suddenly lies bloodied on the ground after the final battle.
In my article at Anime magazine issue 3/2010 I wrote some questions that I would've wanted to get answers for. Even the manga's story didn't fill all gaps but after this book, finally, I feel like my questions have been answered. Fans are going to get lots of details on even the most obscure of moments and previous mishaps.
Takahashi knows that not even he is perfect. In Meteor Gin, past mistakes are corrected in slight jest and in the 80's spirit. Rokusuke from Idate said the name of his squadron leader wrong, but can a frightened, self-wetting dog be trusted, anyway?
Along the more ordinary mistakes, the book also makes an effort to justify the more unrealistic elements such as tree-climbing dogs, Akakabuto's 10 meter height and the shinobi dogs. In all fairness, not everything really needs an explanation – but it does shed some light on what inspired the great mangaka.

A slightly different tranlation project

While reading, it is impossible to miss the free and personality-filled language used. This is not the translator's special touch, but Takahashi's own comments and puns. Juha Mylläri got more creative text to translate than he usually does – and the quality of the text is certain proof of his skills.
The only thing that bothers me even now is the fact that “ukko” (“the old man”) has been romanized into the form “Gohee” when elsewhere words like Kouga, Battouga and Hakurou have been used? Special thanks to the translator for leaving the attack names as they are and only providing small side notes to clarify their meaning.
On the outside, Meteor Gin has the feel of a well combined manga and book. Unfortunately just being big doesn't affect the printing quality. As in all of the previously printed mangas, this book also has some unclarity on especially the darker-shaded pictures. All in all the pictures are clear enough and the book is enjoyable to read.

(Little side box on the left:)

Meteor Gin (book)
Original name: Meteor Gin/ Ginga Seiken Densetsu Meteor Gin
Author: Yoshihiro Takahashi
Publisher: Punainen Jättiläinen (“The red giant”)
Age recommendation: 13+
Language: Finnish
Translator: Juha Mylläri
Price recommendation: 16,90 $
Parts: 1
Year of publication: 2011 (2010 in Japan)

(Two little boxes on the right:)

The work: 3/3 Worth buying
True fans can appreciate both the facts and the entertainment, and this book is clearly directed especially for those fans. New readers can also access Gin's world more thoroughly through this book.

The published book: 3/3
- The quality of the drawings that reflect their time, the translation that respects the original text and the text's imaginative layout on the pages make reading this book an adventure.

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Those silly boxes! I'll figure something out, don't worry about it for now though - thank you so much for translating it!

Edit: I just took them out the boxes, it doesn't matter that the post is long (:
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Thanks, Arano. happy.gif

Sorry about the trouble.
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Loved to read it! Thank you Sandy!!
I feel so much more for Yoshi now, he do have thoughts that fans will be bored of Ginga by now, and that he has truble coming up with new intresting characters.
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There is also interview of Takahashi & Tracon stuff in the newest JapanPop.
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This all reminds me of some sort of a war story set in the Sengoku period...

Thank god I'm not the only one who thought this, haha. XD
My current Ginga story is based on a section of the Sengoku period (but doesn't actually take place there).

Very cool interview! Lot's of good solid information from Yoshi himself! biggrin.gif Thanks for taking the time to translate it!

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QUOTE (Uru @ Oct 28 2011, 02:08 PM) *
There is also interview of Takahashi & Tracon stuff in the newest JapanPop.


Thanks for the info. Due to your post, I went out and looked for the newest JapanPop at the Helsinki book fair. I found it. It has a Tracon article, Takahashi interview and Meteor Gin review. I'll look into translating those when my schedule allows for it to be done. wink.gif

Also! I'm happy Ginga-wise. The sangatsu manga (that publishes Gin here in Finland) had some box labeled "take with you" at their booth at the fair. I peeked in, and found manga covers inside. Like..just covers. O_o They had several Weed ones, and Gin ones (Jump Comics Selection, if that says something to you..). some random kid came over and took all the weed covers (I wasn't quick enough! ;_;) But I got Gin covers 3,4,5,6 and 10. They also had a small "read preview" booklet for the Finnish Weed that's going to come out in December. The booklet had a tiny snippet of the first manga translated, so I got that too..;D
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Woooooow you're so lucky! That's pretty awesome 8D Just the covers... haha how weird!
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Ahh!!! You're so lucky! (Sweden is so dumb that thinks manga is equal to porn...)
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I'm pretty sure there's no chance we're ever going to see GNG or GDW officially translated in English anytime soon, so I'm happy for any country that gets these legendary stories in their own language. biggrin.gif
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Hey guys,

Arano pointed out that there was a Meteor Gin review in the Anime Magazine, so I added the translation for that in the post that has the Takahashi interview and Tracon article.

I'll try and get the JapanPop magazine's articles translated soon. =D
(and maybe add some scans, too - when I get around to doing that..>_>)
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Oct 30 2011, 02:54 PM) *
Hey guys,

Arano pointed out that there was a Meteor Gin review in the Anime Magazine, so I added the translation for that in the post that has the Takahashi interview and Tracon article.

I'll try and get the JapanPop magazine's articles translated soon. =D
(and maybe add some scans, too - when I get around to doing that..>_>)


Thank you very much Sandy, I quite liked that little article xD
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I'm not entirely sure this goes here, but anyway... I got volume 18 of GNG today (it's been that long already?!) and it had another interview at the end of it. I went and translated it (rather quickly, but I think it turned out okay). Two questions asked were about the Kogas' breed and what happened to Fuji, but since this is Yoshi and all, I think we all know not to expect anything ground breaking xD' Anyway, here it is:

Q: Did you know you had fans in Finland?
A: I heard about it for the first time last year.

Q: Are you surprised by the fact that most of them are 12-22-year-old girls?
A: No. There are lots of women among my readers in Japan, too, actually.

Q: Which are your favorite characters?
A: Benizakura and Hakuro.

Q: And among the villains?

A: Hyena.

Q: Which dog breed do you think is the best? And what is your favorite?
A: Different breeds have different qualities, so I don't want to rank them from best to worst. But I like German Shepherds and Labrador Retrievers myself.

Q: Does some character of the story resemble yourself?
A: Daisuke's father?

Q: What do bears mean to you?
A: They are the bosses of the forest. Brown bears are scary, but Asian black bears are no more frightening that ferocious dogs are.

Q: Why are there few female dogs in the series? And why are the few there are incapable of taking care of themselves?
A: It may be due to my own belief that a man's duty is to protect a woman.

Q: What do you think of "Hopeanuoli", the series' Finnish name?
A: It sounds good. I like it.
"Hopeanuoli" means Silver Arrow in Finnish.

Q: Where did you get the idea for the story of "Ginga"?

A: From a news story I had read around that time. It was about dogs who had been abandoned by hunters and then become wild.

Q: Were there any other sources of inspiration?
A: In my home are there was a habit of hunting Asian black bears in spring when they had woken up from hibernation. It has definitely had an effect.

Q: And how did you come up with the name of the series?
A: Ginga refers to the fangs of animals. Nagareboshi Gin came to be because I planned Gin, the protagonist, to have a short life, but one that shone like a shooting star.
["gin" means silver, "ga" fang and "nagareboshi" is shooting star]
That translation note was there in the interview.

Q: Which of your series is your favorite?
A: A short story called Shion no Shippū.
Better known as Shion's Hurricane here on GB.

Q: What breed is Hyena?
A: He's a Weimaraner.

Q: And the ninja dogs of Koga?
A: Their breed is a made up one... But if I had to specify a breed then I guess it would be some offshoot of Kai-dogs. That breed has lived in Japan since ancient times.

Q: What happened to Gin's mother, Fuji?
A: Hmm, I wonder what? Maybe she was given to a relative.

Q: Where does the protagonist's name, Gin, come from?
A: The fact that he's silvery grey.

Q: Is the dog who died at the beginning of the story, Aka, also a puppy of Fuji's? If so, is Riki his father too? And Don, is he also related to Riki?
A: I didn't think of it back then... But perhaps they are Riki's puppies with a different mother. Quality dogs are often used to father/mother lots of puppies, after all.

Q: Is there a particular reason for all of the main characters being purebreds?

A: Nothing special. It's just easier to differentiate purebred dogs from each other in pictures.

Q: Was there a special meaning to Gin ending up being trained by Gohei?
A: Of course! Akakabuto won't be defeated without special training and only a special person can give that!

Q: What is the book of Ito about?
A: The secret book of the ninja dogs? It tells of the special techniques of the ninja dogs.

Q: How do you come up with character names?
A: John was named after my neighbor's dog, Akame after a mountain of the same name, Riki was the name of a professional wrestler. Others come from the character's role and personality.

Q: Why do Kurotora, Akakabuto and Kurojaki a wound over their right eye?
A: These wounds are stories of the geat deeds of the past.

Q: Was it difficult to come up with the names of characters and special techniques?
A: Yes it was. The special techniques in particular were tough ones. But I had to name them, too, because Ginga Nagareboshi Gin was being released in a boys' comic magazine.

Q: Do you have a particular favorite technique?
A: I can't really decide my favorite one.
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HA!! Kogas ARE made up. End of descussion there. XD Though related to orgin Japanese dog breeds. ^^

And Fuji giving away to relative, sounds natural. ^^

Thanks for that Digsu. Will get my own copy next week (probatly). ^^
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Thanks, Digsu. =)
I was going to translate the interview too, but looks like you beat me to it. ;D
It was a nice surprise to find it at the end of the manga.
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Thank you Digsu!

Was interesting to read smile.gif
That Kogas was made up, well I did understand it ;D

I understand it´s hard for him to remember how he did think 25 years ago ^^ ( I almost don´t remember things last year XD)
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Here you are, folks! The translations from the Finnish JapanPop magazine articles. The newest magazine featured a Tracon article, Takahashi's interview and a Meteor Gin review.

Scans of the pages: Click here!
(please note that there's also a scan for the Meteor Gin review that was featured in Animelehti which I've translated in an earlier post. Don't get confused. XD)

And here are the texts. Please note that I've mostly changed the word "Hopeanuoli" which is the Finnish name for Ginga to "Ginga" in the texts to make it easier to read for you guys.


Tracon VI at Tampere Hall 3.- 4.9.

This year, Tracon was once again organized at Tampere Hall that was filled with multi-color costumed, japanese culture- enthusiasts for the whole weekend. The park near Tampere hall was also included in the festivities. You could see battle performances there, among other things. Also, it was a welcome break to get out from the inside into the fresh air and enjoy the beautiful weather.

A celebration for Hopeanuoli

The event attracted people from near and far alike. This time, we heard rumors that some of the most far-away visitors had arrived all the way from the United States to see the event's honorary guest and the mangaka who drew Hopeanuoli, Yoshihiro Takahashi.
The whole event was otherwise also revolving tightly around Hopeanuoli. The program included Takahashi's interview, two book signing events, a fan meeting, a photographing session, Hopeanuoli-musical and to Hopeanuoli themed panels. In addition to these, the Winter Garden room showcased several Hopeanuoli items and items from other works of Takahashi's such as figurines, games, plushies and towels. Several original drawings and books from the series were also on show.

Multiple histories and lolitas

The program featured many other themes besides Hopeanuoli as well. On Saturday the visitors learnt of the history of Morning Musume, got tips on surviving in the Heian period of Japan and took a closer look at the movie versions of japanese videogames. This time the program also lasted throughout the night with themes like the J-Rock fanfiction forum's "Lost and Found fictions".
One of Sunday's most popular events was without a doubt the lolita fashion show where the participants showed off their beautiful lolita dresses along with Jpop music that blasted from the background. Several famous japanese brands were included, like "Baby the Stars Shine Bright". The show filled the seats and was one of the most visually stunning in the whol Tracon event. Unfortunately it was also a rather brief one.

Bad ideas and a closer look at kimonos

One of the funniest programs was Ari-Matti Sarén's "Todella huono idea" ("A really bad idea"). The program introduced examples taken from the japanese popular culture on (for example) how not to take over the world and what not to do when different kinds of monsters attack. The hilarious show had the audience laughing almost non-stop. The warning "may contain nuts" that was written on the show's introduction text was also something that should have been taken seriously as several bags of nuts were passed around in the audience.
During Sunday several other panels on Japan's more traditional culture were also held. Janne Kemppi spoke about the life in Japan during the Edo period and Ulpu Pajari spoke about kimonos as a hobby. In her panel, the kimono-dressed Pajari spoke both about the history of kimonos, their use in modern day Japan and the difficulties of the hobby for someone outside Japan. For example, we learnt where kimonos or parts of the outfits can be purchased, what kind of fabrics and patterns are used in them and what kind of color codes kimonos have.
The shopping district was also full during the whole weekend and the tables were filled with different kinds of merchandise, books, mangas and snacks. Tracon was once again a versatile, successful event and without a doubt one of the year's convention highlights.



Yoshihiro Takahashi
The father of Ginga interviewed

On Saturday the 3rf of September, JapanPop got to interview Tracon's honor guest; the mangaka who created Ginga, Yoshihiro Takahashi.
Before the interview I followed Takahashi and the reporters with him as they took a look at the Ginga exhibit. At the same time, I was trying to grasp how curious and a little weird it was that I was about to interview the person who created the most important and most loved series of my childhood. I was wondering what the childhood me would've said about it. Before I had any more time to ponder about it, we were already making our way to the interview room. After the initial greetings, it was time to begin.

What did you want to convey to the readers through Ginga? What did you want them to think and feel after reading the story?
Big battles and thriumphs over strong opponents have always been my themes, along with risking one's life for one's friends and protecting them. In addition I wanted to convey a strong moral through my story.

What do you think about Ginga popularity in Finland?
When I got here, I was surprised by how excited everyone was about Ginga and how warm-hearted everyone was. It brings me great joy.

Ginga is a shounen manga series, but in Finland it has many female fans. What do you think about this?
The situation is similar in Japan, although there are also many male fans. Many have said that their mothers have bought the mangas and given them for the children to read as well. Fathers have also done the same. When a child spots Weed on the shelf and asks the father to buy it, the father agrees to buy the manga because he's read Ginga. The series has been loved for a long time.

What are you working on at the moment?
Weed, the continuation to Ginga ends in chapter 60. After that begins the story of Weed's puppies in Orion. It will be about ten parts long. So the story of Ginga is still on-going.

What plans do you have for the future?
I still need to continue drawing the series. (Takahashi laughs)

What do you like most about being a mangaka?
What gives me the most strength is when my works are liked and so warmly welcomed.

What are the downsides about being a mangaka?
The lack of sleep. It's unavoidable. That's probably the only downside. The drawing is not dull and inventing the story is rather fun. This work is my calling.

Which characters in Ginga do you like?
If I need to name one, it's Benizakura. I also like other characters like Gin, the Kai brothers and Ben. I like many of the characters. But if I name only one, it's always Benizakura.

Why?
Because he sacrifices himself and dies defending his comrades.

Did you grow attached to your characters?
Of course. When I planned the story, I fully placed myself into the character's place and became them. It was a really powerful experience. I cried when Benizakura died.

How did the idea of Akakabuto come to be?
My publisher at the time had many friends who hunted. One of them travelled the world to hunt and I heard all kinds of stories from him. He told me that lately on Honshu island of Japan there had been sightings of bears with coloring that shouldn't even exist. There was red in their fur and it was suspected that they were mixed breeds. That's where the idea for Akakabuto came from and I created a huge, verocious bear. I called it Akakabuto because of the red fur it has on it's head. Kabuto refers to a head. (Note! In Finnish, Akakabuto means "Red helmet").

What do you think about bears?
I draw bears as really evil, but they're not so evil in reality. I made bears the villains just to emphasize the strength of the dogs. I don't hate bears.

What character was the hardest to draw?
None of the characters were especially hard to draw. The trickiest character is Weed. In Orion that would have to be Kamakiri because he has so much fur. It's a lot of work.

What' the theme in Ginga?
Strong morals and being virtuous.

After Ginga you've been drawing Weed. Can you tell us about the series' background?
Ginga was published about 25 years ago during the course of three years. After three years, it was over. Well, this is from before Ginga started, but originally the story was about the dogs coming together, about finding friends. Originally there was no talk about fighting bears. In the end, I started thinking that could the story really end with the packs of dogs all gathered together and fighting bears. My publisher at the time brought up the idea of a fight against bears. In the story the bears do not win against the dogs. But I had not really thought about the plot that much yet. So I was worried about the dogs facing off against the bears, but in the end it turned out to be a good thing. Drawing the story sort of flowed on its own.

Do you have dogs? If so, what kind?
I have a labrador retriever. They usually become guidance dogs. I had three labrador retrievers but I gave one away and the other, who was the mother of the others, died recently. So, at the moment I only have one dog.

What animals do you like besides dogs?
I also like cats. I've even had cats. I like all living beings. The only animals I don't like so much are cows because I had to look after them as a kid. I'm rather fond of beef, though. (Takahashi laughs.)

Do you read manga? If you do, what kind of manga?
I haven't read any lately. I grew tired of reading manga when I was about 40 years old. What have I read? Hiroshi Hirata's Satsuma Gishiden. It's about a samurai. I read that one very enthusiastically and was completely swept away by it.

Who's the mangaka you respect the most?
Naturally the one who inspired me; Hiroshi Motomiya.

What do you do in your free time? What are your hobbies or what are you interested in?
When I was younger I was very interested in classic cars. Now I'm a very enthusiastic golf player. Don't you think I have a good tan? (He lifts up his sleeve and shows his arm.)

What do you think of when you hear the word Finland?
Moomins and Santa Claus.

What Moomin characters do you like the most?
Hm, maybe Moomintroll and Snufkin as well.

What kind of music do you like?
Sho Hamada and Tsuyoshi Nakabuchi's music. I also like Olivia Newton John.

What kind of foods do you like?
Tomatoes, vegetables, bananas, watermelons and fruits in general. When it comes to meat, I like beef and sheep.

What kind of foods don't you like?
Foie Gras. (Takahashi laughs.)

Would you like to say something to the readers of JapanPop?
I am very glad that you like the japanese culture so much. The japanese should learn more about Finland, too. Finland is a very beautiful and good country. I like Finland a lot.

I thanked the relaxed and happy Takahashi for the interview. When I left the room, I felt as if I'd somehow completed a circle. I immediately knew the reaction the childhood me would have - it was joy.



Meteor Gin
A wide encyclopedia about Ginga

Meteor Gin is a versatile encyclopedia for the friends of Ginga. The book provides lots of information about the different aspects and backgrounds of Ginga. Also included is the creator Yoshihiro Takahashi's interview and sections for two of his past assistants. The book even has a dog horoscope, which'll help the reader to figure out what Ginga character they resemble the most.

News from a human's perspective

Naturally, the book includes detailed introductions of Ginga's characters. This is the most common part of the book. The book also re-caps all of the important fights and the summary of the main plot.
Someone's had a great idea, as the plot summary is filled with small news articles written from a human's perspective about the most important events of the series. Among them are stories about a dog who's been seen using tools and tales about peculiar animals seen flying over ravines. The articles about the battles of dogs versus bears even have the UN animal protection agencies rather upset and different states in an uproar. These stories are particularly fun to read because they are written from a completely different perspective from the one the reader is used to.

Activating the readers and the bear's point of view

Meteor Gin also activates the readers with a fun board game, the goal of it being the players defeating Akakabuto. To play the game, you only need a few game pieces, a dice and the book. The book itself also brings forth several questions that have interested the readers. All in all, 30 questions are answered, though the answers should not be taken very seriously.
The book also provides information about Takahashi's other dog series's. Alongside Gin, one of the most popular ones is probably the story about a fighting dog; Shiroi senshi Yamato. Aside from Yamato the book also tells of a series made after Ginga; Kachhu no Senshi Gamu. It was based in Japan's middle-age Sengoku time period and portrayed shinobi talks that speak the human language, one of them is seen even riding a horse. Therefore, Meteor Gin also provides lots of information about things that are not quite Ginga.
A rather interesting part of the book is the look at the events of the series from Akakabuto's point of view. The plot twists are seen in a completely new light when the reader is put into a position where the poor bear seems completely misunderstood and abused. This idea, in my perspective, could've been expanded more in a broader story of the subject.
All in all it can be said that Meteor Gin is a humorously written, enlightening view on Ginga. The book is full of pictures, as can be expected from a manga's encyclopedia. It provides lots of information and it's fun to read. It also comes with a separate map of the journeys the dogs took during the story. The other side of it is a small poster.

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Author: Yoshihiro Takahashi
Publisher: Punainen Jättiläinen ("Red Giant" in English)
Translator: Juha Mylläri
Length: 187 pages
Language: Finnish

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Final grade: 4,5/5
+ funny "news articles"
+ the board game
+ Heaps of interesting information
+ Takahashi's interview

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QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 5 2011, 07:01 PM) *
The event attracted people from near and far alike. This time, we heard rumors that some of the most far-away visitors had arrived all the way from the United States to see the event's honorary guest and the mangaka who drew Hopeanuoli, Yoshihiro Takahashi.

That's you Flann! 8D
Wonder why they didn't know of Mizzkie coming from Japan?

Also
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Suvi is in the top picture wearing the hat she got from Jenny! XD

Thanks for this! Awww I wish I could get these magazines (other the one you sent me already, thank you!) I wonder if you can get them online?

Takahashi says that in Orion he finds Kamakiri hard to draw, or does he actually mean Kamakiri's sons?
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QUOTE (Arano @ Nov 5 2011, 06:30 PM) *
Takahashi says that in Orion he finds Kamakiri hard to draw, or does he actually mean Kamakiri's sons?

I'm pretty sure he meant Kamakiri's sons. XD We don't see Kamakiri himself at all in Orion.
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QUOTE (The Tiger of Kai @ Nov 6 2011, 03:51 AM) *
I'm pretty sure he meant Kamakiri's sons. XD We don't see Kamakiri himself at all in Orion.


Well, the article spoke of Kamakiri himself. So I don't know. Maybe the interviewer got it wrong? *shrug*
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QUOTE (Arano @ Nov 6 2011, 12:30 AM) *
That's you Flann! 8D
Wonder why they didn't know of Mizzkie coming from Japan?

Also
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/Silv...nPop_Tracon.jpg
Suvi is in the top picture wearing the hat she got from Jenny! XD

Thanks for this! Awww I wish I could get these magazines (other the one you sent me already, thank you!) I wonder if you can get them online?

Takahashi says that in Orion he finds Kamakiri hard to draw, or does he actually mean Kamakiri's sons?



I aslo wonder why they didn´t know of Mizzkie? Hmm
But fun that they did mentioned the the fans who have come a long way to attend!^^

I saw my hat! Really fun!^^

Did he said that orion will be ten manga long only??
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QUOTE (Jenny @ Nov 6 2011, 03:51 PM) *
Did he said that orion will be ten manga long only??

He said 10 parts. Defenetly not manga. But I do wonder what he means. 10 adventures or what?
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QUOTE (Tora @ Nov 6 2011, 06:23 PM) *
He said 10 parts. Defenetly not manga. But I do wonder what he means. 10 adventures or what?


No idea, sorry. The text isn't very specific, I'm afraid. ^^;
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 6 2011, 07:42 PM) *
No idea, sorry. The text isn't very specific, I'm afraid. ^^;

No need to say sorry. ^^
The tranlation isn't that exact. XD
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QUOTE (Tora @ Nov 6 2011, 04:23 PM) *
He said 10 parts. Defenetly not manga. But I do wonder what he means. 10 adventures or what?



Probably like 10 arcs.

GNG had what...2? Akakabuto and the wolves.
GDW had Kaibutsu, Hougen, monkeys, Russia, and Hybrid.

Orion has...Um. I've lost count.

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Some exciting news guys! :3

The publisher of Ginga sent this message to Kaksoissola [Finnish Ginga forum] a while ago [rough translation]:

"Okay guys, I'm not promising anything, but I just wanna tell you how the situation [of Ginga] looks from the perspective of a publisher.
Hopeanuoli has been a success and so has Meteor Gin. It seems that you guys want to read those side series of 1~2 books or so as well and if there is enough buyers, of course we wanna take ur mo- erhm, I mean spread even more Ginga culture within Finland.
To say it shortly, if there isn't going to be any bigger problems with Japanese publishers, we will release those kind of books.
In order to do so, of course we must start Weed first, and make sure that it sells enough."


So guys. This basically means we are gonna get those extra mangas in Finnish as well, if we buy Weed enough and Japanese publishers are willing to give the rights to publish 'em! zero.gif

Ah, now every Finn [and those here who buy the Finnish edition] let's buy Weed a lot! >:3

Not that I'm not already super excited about Weed~

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I read that too! =D
I really, really, hope that we're going to get more of Takahashi's works. Riki's story would be awesome. ;D

I'm not that excited about Weed, though. I'll probably read it from a library or something. But yay for more mangas! =D
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Like I need more to want to buy Ginga mangas in Finnish! WEEEEEEED!! I must say I sure will love you of you gane ppular enough in Finland!
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 7 2011, 09:10 PM) *
I read that too! =D
I really, really, hope that we're going to get more of Takahashi's works. Riki's story would be awesome. ;D

I'm not that excited about Weed, though. I'll probably read it from a library or something. But yay for more mangas! =D


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Weed.....they are so many of them... >_>
I do hope that some day the come in english or swedish, only then I will buy all 60

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QUOTE (Jenny @ Nov 8 2011, 01:35 PM) *
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Weed.....they are so many of them... >_>
I do hope that some day the come in english or swedish, only then I will buy all 60


Yeah, it's the number of the mangas that puts me off, too. It's like..almost 6 euros each. If I multiply that by 60, it's a small fortune for a poor student like me. X'D
I know it's only the 6 euros per month..but I don't have anywhere to put 60 mangas, either. So I'll just keep going to the library..>_>
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 8 2011, 06:24 PM) *
Yeah, it's the number of the mangas that puts me off, too. It's like..almost 6 euros each. If I multiply that by 60, it's a small fortune for a poor student like me. X'D
I know it's only the 6 euros per month..but I don't have anywhere to put 60 mangas, either. So I'll just keep going to the library..>_>


I hear you. I'm trying to sell mine but I can't even give these suckers away 8|
Promising news about the side books (they mean the GNG Gaidens or all those random ones like 'My Dog My Weed'?). I'm endeavouring to collect all the Hopeanuoli books, if I can contact the Urumi website.

Does anyone know if the rumours are true that they might be making an english version of the site for buyers outside of Finland? I can't remember who told me/where I read it, but I hope they do because it would open up a channel for international collectors and help Finland get those books translated for sure.
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QUOTE (Arano @ Nov 9 2011, 01:34 AM) *
I hear you. I'm trying to sell mine but I can't even give these suckers away 8|
Promising news about the side books (they mean the GNG Gaidens or all those random ones like 'My Dog My Weed'?). I'm endeavouring to collect all the Hopeanuoli books, if I can contact the Urumi website.

Does anyone know if the rumours are true that they might be making an english version of the site for buyers outside of Finland? I can't remember who told me/where I read it, but I hope they do because it would open up a channel for international collectors and help Finland get those books translated for sure.


I don't know about that, but maybe you can ask?
The email for Urumi is asiakaspalvelu (at) urumi.fi
I'm sure they can give you an answer and you won't need to rely on rumors anymore. =)

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Thanks for the link Sandy (:
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Ensialkuun katsomme, miten Weed menestyy. Jos se myy hyvin, julkaisemme todennäköisesti myös noita lyhyitä "sivutarinoita" silloin tällöin. Mutta katsotaan nyt...


Quote from Antti Valkama who is the person at Sangatsu Manga who decides what series will be translated.

"First we will check how WEED will succeed. If it sells well we will very likely translate those short stories every now and then. But we will see..."
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I saw this at Hopeanuoli.com. Seems like they don't have photos in background...
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QUOTE (Tora @ Nov 24 2011, 04:55 PM) *
I saw this at Hopeanuoli.com. Seems like they don't have photos in background...

Perhaps have something to do with that I saw on urumi.fi
I use the goggle translation, so the translation perhaps isn't perfect
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Ginga-extra for subscribers! 01/11/2011 (at 15:11)

Attention, fans of Ginga!

Now when you buy any product, you will receive a free piece of reading, with about twenty pages of translated Finnish WEED manga.
There's also a sample chapter guards, the third part of a series of Finnish manga lovers.



QUOTE (Uru @ Nov 24 2011, 02:04 PM) *
Quote from Antti Valkama who is the person at Sangatsu Manga who decides what series will be translated.

"First we will check how WEED will succeed. If it sells well we will very likely translate those short stories every now and then. But we will see..."

Ah thank you for the info
it's true, I can understand that they want to see how that goes with Weed series
But the Weed series are longer then the short Novells like Gaidens, and the other mangas.
But it will be interesting to see how it goes with Weed series.
What I heard the Finnish GNG manga did really go were well

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Thanks Sandy and Uru ^^

See how this is going:)

Anybody know if Silver Fang manga did sell very well? over anticipation? smile.gif ( It did well, that´s for sure, else it won´t be any Weed translated right?! smile.gif)
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What I heard it was great success. The first volume sold better than first volume of Naruto and Naruto did have special discount price at that time (normally 5,50 euros, discount price 4 euros). And Meteor Gin was 5th or 6th in most sold children/youngsters books at October.

The linked special was free sample of manga and we gave it free for people who ordered something from Urumi. It had about 20 pages of Weed and 20 pages of Vartijat (Finnish manga). They have now ended.

Finnish Edition of Weed doesn't have background as the printing/scanning would be very hard to do and the quality would be no good. You can actually see this if you compare Comic One's English edition and Japanese edition: CO's version doesn't have that good quality.

And, as I have already annoyed Finnish Ginga forums with this, look what I got today!

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1571/img8239w.jpg

They are not yet in markets yet so I got them bit early~ (Mangas are same size, btw. The picture just looks weird.)

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QUOTE (Uru @ Nov 24 2011, 07:09 PM) *
What I heard it was great success. The first volume sold better than first volume of Naruto and Naruto did have special discount price at that time (normally 5,50 euros, discount price 4 euros). And Meteor Gin was 5th or 6th in most sold children/youngsters books at October.

The linked special was free sample of manga and we gave it free for people who ordered something from Urumi. It had about 20 pages of Weed and 20 pages of Vartijat (Finnish manga). They have now ended.

Finnish Edition of Weed doesn't have background as the printing/scanning would be very hard to do and the quality would be no good. You can actually see this if you compare Comic One's English edition and Japanese edition: CO's version doesn't have that good quality.

And, as I have already annoyed Finnish Ginga forums with this, look what I got today!

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1571/img8239w.jpg

They are not yet in markets yet so I got them bit early~ (Mangas are same size, btw. The picture just looks weird.)

So nice!!! *please Sweden! see this and translate!*
Meteor Gin surley is a yummy book of information of the manga we all love. ^^

I acctelly love the plain coloured background! What sstill surprice me is that it doesn't have "Hopeanuolen poika" on the title together with WEED, like with the DVDs.
And does this manga have the characters on the spine? Or on the back like Hopeanuoli manga? And how does the back and spine look like?
Sorry for all this questions. XD
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Never thought about the printing quality of the cover on Comic one vs Japanese Weed ^^ But it perhaps true smile.gif
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Never thought about the printing quality of the cover on Comic one vs Japanese Weed ^^ But it perhaps true smile.gif

I know I have, they're not good... not even the inside (not counting the mirror to read it, like "normal" books American way). I can show you when you come to me. wink.gif
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QUOTE (Tora @ Nov 24 2011, 07:23 PM) *
I know I have, they're not good... not even the inside (not counting the mirror to read it, like "normal" books American way). I can show you when you come to me. wink.gif

Have the english ones ^^ Will check it later:)
Like GLW ^^ First manga I bought and liked to read it smile.gif
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There are no characters at spine, but there is picture at the back of the books (same one as in Japanese versions). Manga is same size as GNG, but for some reason it looks bigger. Maybe it's the background?

If I have time tomorrow, I try to take some pictures.

Mel is translated as Mer, btw. Finally the name is written correctly. \o/

3th volume will be published 10th January.
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QUOTE (Uru @ Nov 24 2011, 07:53 PM) *
There are no characters at spine, but there is picture at the back of the books (same one as in Japanese versions). Manga is same size as GNG, but for some reason it looks bigger. Maybe it's the background?

If I have time tomorrow, I try to take some pictures.

Mel is translated as Mer, btw. Finally the name is written correctly. \o/

3th volume will be published 10th January.

Where's the spine pics then? They are good pic of charaters...
Same size? I thought they would be the same size as the Japanese GDW mangas.
YAY! Some pic on the translated pages as well just to show?

Ah, Mer, somehow I like it, since in Weed Gaiden Mel's says his real name is Mercedes, so Mer sound more logical then Mel. XD
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QUOTE (Uru @ Nov 24 2011, 06:09 PM) *
The linked special was free sample of manga and we gave it free for people who ordered something from Urumi. It had about 20 pages of Weed and 20 pages of Vartijat (Finnish manga). They have now ended.


Cool, I got one of those! I thought it was a really cute little booklet c:

So his name is Mer? That's very odd! In English (even though it's a Spanish name and the correct abbreviation is Merce), Mel is one name used as a short/nickname for Mercedes, as "Mer" is a nonsense sound. I guess people called him that all along because of the Katakana spelling Meru, and Mel is the obvious name that comes out of it XD
I wonder what other names might be translated differently?

About the covers and such... I have to print and make books all the time at work, and it strikes me as odd that the covers are without backgrounds because generally the digital copy of the artwork is (well, should) be kept on file by both the publisher and the printing company. -strokes beard- Interesting. But to be honest... I do like the plain background. Aw you know what would have been good? If all 60 books were different colour shades to make a gradient rainbow on your bookshelf 8D

Uru, Flann and I set aside some questions a while back to ask anyone involved in the production/publishing of Hopeanuoli, and I'm wondering if there might be one or two I could ask you through PM as I get the impression you were quite involved?
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It's actually written as Mer in all Japanese goods. Artbook, pachinko...

Now that you mentioned it, Golby (the husky at the second part) was written as Gorby. Other than that they were normal. GB was GB, not G.B. as in anime.

Yeah, sure. Just send pm.
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QUOTE (Uru @ Nov 25 2011, 09:44 AM) *
It's actually written as Mer in all Japanese goods. Artbook, pachinko...

Now that you mentioned it, Golby (the husky at the second part) was written as Gorby. Other than that they were normal. GB was GB, not G.B. as in anime.


So just a wonder now, is it just these 2 names who are wrong transleted so to speak or almost all with a L in their name instead or a R ? ^^

Interesting, see how sometimes it can be some wrong^^

Must say Mel is sounding better than Mer and Golby instead or Gorby. But right should be right smile.gif
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I've also see it spells "Mer" in Artbook and these coaster. But in Weed Legendary Battle (like a Meteor Gin of Weed, but only Kaibutsu part) is says "Mel". And "Golby" as "Golvy".
Can't wait till Weed vol 3 to see how "Rocca" is spelled. Since in Weed Legendary BAttle it's spelled "Rocca", but on some sheets of him in animé it says "Locker" and the Swedish and Finnish subs have "Rocker".
Just like how we before spelled "Gohei" (and still do in Sweden) and not "Gohee".
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It's because 'L' and 'R' are the same sound in Japanese; 'L' is not in their alphabet. The katakana for Mel/Mer's name is メ me ル ru. Mel is simply the obvious name translation in English as 'Mer' is neither a used name or anything else, just a nonsense sound. You only get a clue that his name could be Mer from the context of learning that his real name is Mercedes, but without that knowledge it's impossible for an English speaker to understand Meru as anything else other than Mel, as that is a name and Mer is not. That's what I mean (: But now that I think about it, Mel is just as correct due to the language technicality regardless.

Because now, someone could say that the character Bell is actually Ber and be correct, because it follows the same rules and same character 'Ru' ベル == Beru. Beru/Meru. Haha! I love language XD

The same sort of thing happens with Rokka. (ロッカ). In English it could be Rocker, or Locker; interchangeable 'R' or 'L', and double 'KK' in Romaji making the 'CK' sound in English. Locker is the correct translation (as confirmed by this), but Rocker isn't wrong due to the language technicality.

Hm. Gorubii is how the guy's name is spelt in Katakana ゴルビー, so I would assume his name is Gorby because it is the affectionate short name for Gorbachev (Mikhail Gorbachev specifically lol). He's a Siberian Husky so it makes sense doesn't it - we know that Yoshi is rather familiar with Russian names due to the arc! But that's my opinion on that name anyway X)

The names spelt in Katakana are difficult to get right, because whether it's spelt with an 'R' or an 'L' in Romaji, it makes no difference whatsoever to Japanese readers, only western ones.

Edit: Just realised in a previous comment the Gorby thing was already said. Whoops, pardon my very poor skim-reading |'D
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I almost forgot.
The Ginga Musical crew has an advent calendar on their blog. It's mostly Finnish, sorry. But they do occasionally share videos from their practise sessions and things like that, if people are interested.
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/joulukalenteri/
(for example, yesterday's tab featured the notoriously badly dubbed Finnish Ginga. XD)

Also, they are currently working on making the DVD for Takahashi sensei. It will have both English and Japanese subtitles. ;D

Also, Weed manga (Finnish) issues #1 and #2 should be out in stores today.
#3 will be out after the 10th of January.

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QUOTE (Sandy @ Dec 7 2011, 11:51 AM) *
I almost forgot.
The Ginga Musical crew has an advent calendar on their blog. It's mostly Finnish, sorry. But they do occasionally share videos from their practise sessions and things like that, if people are interested.
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/joulukalenteri/
(for example, yesterday's tab featured the notoriously badly dubbed Finnish Ginga. XD)

Also, they are currently working on making the DVD for Takahashi sensei. It will have both English and Japanese subtitles. ;D

Also, Weed manga (Finnish) issues #1 and #2 should be out in stores today.
#3 will be out after the 10th of January.

NICE! ^^

Wish we could buy it.

I saw it on Adlibris, but Adlibris don't have Weed vol 2 somehow...
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Not particularly big news, but there's apparently an advertisement for the GDW manga and DVDs running in television. I'm saying "apparently", as I haven't seen it myself, my mom told me that she saw it. If a Finnish GB member who actually watches TV (which I do not xD') could tell a bit more about this, that'd be nice.

I should probably mention that my mom just said that she saw the manga and DVDs "being advertised", but I'm fairly sure she was talking about TV ads...

In other (very minor) news, the ninth door of the Ginga Musical's Advent calendar included translations for all of their songs.
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QUOTE (Digsu @ Dec 12 2011, 03:12 PM) *
Not particularly big news, but there's apparently an advertisement for the GDW manga and DVDs running in television. I'm saying "apparently", as I haven't seen it myself, my mom told me that she saw it. If a Finnish GB member who actually watches TV (which I do not xD') could tell a bit more about this, that'd be nice.

I should probably mention that my mom just said that she saw the manga and DVDs "being advertised", but I'm fairly sure she was talking about TV ads...

In other (very minor) news, the ninth door of the Ginga Musical's Advent calendar included translations for all of their songs.

Oh my! Wich so much I had Finnish TV-channels... We had it once...


YAY! Translation of songs silver.gif !
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Today's Ginga!Musical advent calendar featured the first few pages of Orion translated into Finnish (by one member of the cast).

Also, Arano. They featured your Takahashi sensei "U mad?" meme. XD
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/j...teri/15-luukku/
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Nice!! Thanks you for letting know Sandy. ^^
And I looked threw the advent calender, and must say I like how Weed manga cover will look like up to vol 10. ^^
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Ahahaa I'm really happy they found the meme XD

An advent calender like this is such an adorable idea. What a nice bunch they are C:
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Merry Christmas to all! =D

Also, the Ginga!Musical crew's advent calendar announces that the re-newed, improved version of their musical will be performed next year at a Finnish convention called "Animecon" which will be held at Kuopio (14th-15th of July 2012).

They state to have: "added more songs and characters, and slightly tweaked the scenes."

Plus, their calendar features the last part (the final fight) of their musical with official, English subtitles made by them. Enjoy!

http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/j...teri/24-luukku/

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Yay for English subs!
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Gingasite was mentioned in a Finnish magazine for school kids:



You Ask, Witty (clever) answers


Mail your questions to (address) or via Internet (www address)

..............................................................................

Is there any other site besides kaksoissola.net from where I could get information about Ginga. Thanks for replying.

When talking about Ginga people mean manga and anime works created by Yoshihiro Takahashi, of which GNG is probably most well known. There are lots of Ginga fans and also fan sites. From English sites www.gingasite.net is comprehensive, and from Finnish site e.g. www.ginga.fi and www.freewebs.com/gingaplace01 are worth of giving a visit.


And yeah, translator choose Mer instead of Mel because the dog's name is Mercedes. It's causing a commotion but we'll handle it.

Over and out.
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QUOTE (Nawulf @ Mar 7 2012, 02:24 PM) *
Gingasite was mentioned in a Finnish magazine for school kids:



You Ask, Witty (clever) answers


Mail your questions to (address) or via Internet (www address)

..............................................................................

Is there any other site besides kaksoissola.net from where I could get information about Ginga. Thanks for replying.

When talking about Ginga people mean manga and anime works created by Yoshihiro Takahashi, of which GNG is probably most well known. There are lots of Ginga fans and also fan sites. From English sites www.gingasite.net is comprehensive, and from Finnish site e.g. www.ginga.fi and www.freewebs.com/gingaplace01 are worth of giving a visit.


And yeah, translator choose Mer instead of Mel because the dog's name is Mercedes. It's causing a commotion but we'll handle it.

Over and out.


That's fantastic! Thanks for posting this (: don't suppose you know the name of the magazine?
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Judging from the website address on the screenie, I'd say that this is a magazine called Koululainen. It's a magazine intended for young kids (elementary school, mostly). It usually has contests, activities, articles and other similar things.
That seems to be a screenshot/scan of their Q&A section, if I'm not completely mistaken. So there's probably no more mentioned than that.

I used to get it when I was younger. xD Needless to say, I so out-grew it..>_>

Oh, and on a completely different matter:
There was an article in the Anime magazine about Weed. If someone has it and can scan the pages with the article for me, I can translate them. I don't have the magazine myself, I'm afraid. I can look for it if people want to hear more /read the article, but it was published some time ago so I'm not sure if I can find it anywhere...
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There also was a WEED-article at JapanPop.
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Ginga Densestu Riki will be transleted in Finnish.

Edit: It will be same printing quality as GNG's special edition and has color pages!

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QUOTE (Uru @ Apr 25 2012, 05:04 PM) *
Ginga Densestu Riki will be transleted in Finnish.

Edit: It will be same printing quality as GNG's special edition and has color pages!


Darn, you told the news before I could. xD
But yes, indeed!
I will add to the previous post that it is estimated to come out sometime in July and will be one volume long.
The price (according to the news I've read) is 6,90 euros.
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Apr 25 2012, 06:15 PM) *
Darn, you told the news before I could. xD
But yes, indeed!
I will add to the previous post that it is estimated to come out sometime in July and will be one volume long.
The price (according to the news I've read) is 6,90 euros.


YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.


I can't wait =D
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Hey Arano you should start learning some Finnish. wink.gif Then you could read all Finnish GNG/GDW + extra mangas like no problem! But yes indeed, GDR is being translated into Finnish. I'm SO happy to be a Finn! biggrin.gif Oh and, it's not completely sure, but there might be a message from Yoshihiro to us Finnish fans again, like there was in the GNG special edition manga.

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Iieep!! CONGRATZ Finland! biggrin.gif
Now I must learn Japanese quickly and translate the Ginga mangas myself and give out (will take more then 5 years...)
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QUOTE (taigin @ Apr 26 2012, 03:43 PM) *
Hey Arano you should start learning some Finnish. wink.gif Then you could read all Finnish GNG/GDW + extra mangas like no problem! But yes indeed, GDR is being translated into Finnish. I'm SO happy to be a Finn! biggrin.gif Oh and, it's not completely sure, but there might be a message from Yoshihiro to us Finnish fans again, like there was in the GNG special edition manga.


Haha if only! I did get most of the way through one of the wolf arc mangas scanlating into english with Sandy's help. Maybe that's something I can finnish this summer *lolpun*

How far is GDW up to now in the Finnish translation?
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QUOTE (Arano @ Apr 26 2012, 09:55 PM) *
How far is GDW up to now in the Finnish translation?

Well, most of the stores have volume 6 on sale. The release date for the seventh book is 1.5..

On the other hand, I work at a manga selling company and they have the seventh book is on sale. The release date for the eight book is 5.6., if anyone's interested.
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QUOTE (Arano @ Apr 26 2012, 09:55 PM) *
Haha if only! I did get most of the way through one of the wolf arc mangas scanlating into english with Sandy's help. Maybe that's something I can finnish this summer *lolpun*

How far is GDW up to now in the Finnish translation?


You did a marvellous job with that, especially considering that you don't really know any Finnish. ;D
I'm quite sure you're learning a little about written Finnish while doing it, too. At least some basics.
I'll be happy to help you with the rest of the wolf arc once you get started on it again.

Kretari, do you know where that is story-wise? I'm wondering when I should start reading them..xD
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.. Oh pff, should have edited that to the previous post. Stupid me. XD

At the beginning of the latest volume Akame had just arrived at Ou, and was discovered by Weed and GB. The book ends with Rocket suggesting that the Ou pack should cross the Alps right there and then.

Hope that helped~
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You lucky dogs! I really want to support the Finnish release, but funds are a problem right now. But still, congrats! smile.gif
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Will go to Finland in May (Fairy 17-19, in Helsinki for 6 hours May 18), know any good store that sells Weed manga?

Oh, and when does Riki come out?
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Tora, Riki will be published somewhere around July. And good stores that sell Weed manga... umm, well, of course bookstores like ''Akateeminen Kirjakauppa'' which is something like ''Academic Bookstore'' in English, or ''Suomalainen Kirjakauppa'' which is ''A Finnish Bookstore''. Some markets do have Weed also, for example ''Prisma'' and some convenience stores/kiosks, like ''R-kioski''. I'm not sure how many volumes they have there but at least the newest ones. smile.gif Hope this helped!
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QUOTE (Arano @ Apr 26 2012, 07:55 PM) *
How far is GDW up to now in the Finnish translation?


Volume 7 just came out ^^

QUOTE (Tora @ Apr 27 2012, 07:49 PM) *
Will go to Finland in May (Fairy 17-19, in Helsinki for 6 hours May 18), know any good store that sells Weed manga?


I don't know if you have time but right in the metro station of Kaisaniemi (it's really close to the center of Helsinki) there's gameshop named "Fantasiapelit" (=Fantasygames). There is a lot of Finnish GNG and GDW-mangas and also there should be Meteor Gin right when you go in next to the disk. It might be good to visit there smile.gif There's other manga too!

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I'm also going to recommend Fantasiapelit at Kaisaniemi.
There are a few others that I can guarantee that have Weed on sale, but they are a bit further away from the center.
They have all the published Weed mangas (and probably some Ginga ones still, if you want them).

You can click here for their website.

If you click "Tuotteet" and from there on the left select "tuotehaku" and write "Hopeanuoli" in the search field, you'll be able to see all of the mangas they have, both of Weed and Ginga.

Map of their location here
(The huge black and white thing on the very left of the map is the central railway station. This map shows you how to find the shop entrance if you go around the big building complex. I'm writing a few more instructions below.)

The easiest way to get into the shop (if you approach from the central railway station's direction) is to cross the bus terminals, go through the "Rautatientori" which is a small square in front of the Ateneum art museum (big building, can't miss it). Pass the statue on your left on the square, keep going straight. There will be glass doors in the building in front of you. They will open as you approach. Keep going straight through past the Casino and movie theatre. Pass the restaurants. Once you pass the Hesburger, turn left. Keep going straight past the R-kiosk and a small cafe. There is a sign that has a dragon on it and it should read Fantasiapelit. Their entrance is to the left through a few glass sliding doors. (if you have trouble spotting it, there's a shop called "Aprilli" on the opposite side of the glass doors. It's a colourful shop that sells wigs, carnival outfits and whatnot. It's a pretty good landmark.)

If you arrive by metro, it's even easier to find the shop. The escalator that you take to get out of the metro platforms ends up right next to the shop's entrance.

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I'm sorry about the double-post, but I thought it best to separate this into it's own post as it's a completely different subject than my previous one.

A long time ago (we're talking January here) the anime magazine published a review about Weed. I didn't manage to get my hands on the actual magazine, but Kretari had it and scanned the pages for all of us to see. I translated the article, just in case some of you want to read it. =)
Please forgive me for any spelling mistakes and/or weird translations. Some of the wording in the article was really hard to translate due to not knowing the best counterparts in English, but I did the best I could.

Page 1: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/s...lehti/Weed1.png

Page 2: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/s...lehti/Weed2.png

The translated article:

(Orange box at the top left)
Weed (manga)
Original name: Ginga Densetsu Weed
Author: Yoshihiro Takahashi
Publisher: Punainen jättiläinen (“Red Giant”)
Age recommendation: 13+
Recommended price: 5,90€
Language: Finnish
Translator: Juha Mylläri
Published in Finnish: 3/60 (translator's note: we're now at part 8)
Published: 12/2011 (in Japan 1999-2009)

(Quote below:)
“Takahashi is the undeniable king of the genre, so if you're still interested in dog manga Weed is worth checking out.”

Headline:
Weed
The apple falls from far from the tree


Who's to deny it? The popularity of the dog-shounen Gin (aka Hopeanuoli) is not fading in Finland. We got the un-cut anime DVD's, the manga was published and the mangaka himself, Yoshihiro Takahashi, visited Tracon and talked about his career.
It goes without saying that Hopeanuoli (Gin) manga is followed by it's sequel Ginga Densetsu Weed, also known as simply Weed in Finland. It started back in 1999 and was published in a magazine called Manga Goraku (which is directed at middle-aged men) for 10 years.
The manga series follows the adventures of Gin's cub that take place ten years after the events of the Hopeanuoli manga. The story begins when an English setter GB comes across our main character and his mum. The mother, who is fatally ill, uses her last breath to say that the puppy is the son of legendary Gin and asks GB to take the cub to his father to Ohu where Gin's pack once defeated the terrorizing bear Akakabuto and founded the dog's paradise. GB names the pup Weed, hoping that the pup's life would be as hard to snuff out as his namesake's and sets out to escort him to Ohu's paradise.
The beginning og the Weed manga follows the journey of the duo and is therefore very episode-structured. To the readers of Hopeanuoli (Ginga) this sort of periodic structure is nothing new; but in that manga the characters who joined the in on the journey played an important part in the final battles to come. Whereas in Weed, the beginning of the story is somewhat hollow and the characters that we meet are forgotten just as quickly as they appeared.

The ruins of the dog paradise

We get to Ohu in the middle of the second manga. There, Weed and GB are met with chaos. Wild dogs are rumoured to have attacked humans and it's being said that they are starting to become a problem that rivals Akakabuto. The inhabitants of the dog's paradise are split up in rebels and those still faithful to Gin. No one has seen the leader nor his officers lately. Ohu's pack portrays some of the offspring of dogs seen in the previous series, and the group of hunters set out to kill these rogue dogs is lead by Hidetoshi. Only Gin's former owner Daisuke, now a young man, still believes in the dogs of Ohu and wants to prevent their deaths.
This is an interesting set up for the story, but also one that will possibly alienate readers who will see the characters they once knew as something completely different. On the other hand, Gin's offpsring's adventures have provided a more entertaining and logical entertainment than what the original cast offered after the defeat of Akakabuto.
In the last few volumes of Ginga the warriors of Ohu clashed with the mystic wolf warriors. Even the last shreds of possible interest shriveled and died when the fighters simply used the same attacks against each other over and over again. The champion was simply the one who was the destiny's chosen one and more entitled to use the attack they battled with. Weed, thank goodness, is not that boring – the battles have some real strategy in them once again.

A heroic pup and an everyday male

Our main character weed is not as charismatic as a hero as Gin was. The young, naïve pup kicks butt unrealistically well – even though he lacks the muscle strength, he certainly has the willpower. Of course, Gin was also a better fighter than the other adults in his series, but at least we were shown were his ingenuity and bravery came from. Gin's abilities were a mix of the tiger striped bear hound's genes and the old man Takeda's harsh training. As for Weed – well, it seems that god-like battle skills and unending tenacity have apparently been given to him in birth.
The pup is also an annoyingly pure saint who forgives even the most rotten villains without even caring if they regret their actions or not. This trait is also inherited from his father, but along with invinsibility it seems to become even more powerful and annoying in Weed.
Takahashi's dogs are males of principle, who often make melodramatic speeches about justice and sacrifices. The cowardly GB is therefore a rather un-typical main character for dog manga. Following Nero's orders, GB resembles Sniper's lackey Hyena more than he does the strong males of Ohu. But it turns out that his tendency to be a bit of a coward is not despisable, but practical.
While Weed unselfishly charges from one dangerous situation to the next, GB stands back and and sensibly comes to the conclusion that one cannot survive in this world with good intentions alone. However, his hidden sense of justice does make him rush to the aid of his friends when needed, often with a plan up his sleeve. These traits make GB one of the most human characters of Takahashi's, and following the growth of this sympatheric setter is often more interesting to watch than Weed's.

From dog gangs to genetically engineered mutants

Some of Ginga's popularity is due to nostalgia and the brand new plot. Whereas in Weed the fighting dogs are old news. Instead of strong dogs who've survived unbelievable odds and horrors, we encounter small dog gangs who operate like little thugs, their bosses forcing pups and outcasts to serve them.
The dog world in Weed has hit normality. It's lacking ninja dogs, harpoon bears and the gun-bearing, ragged old hunter. The monstrous, gene-manipulated dog and the other dangers later threatening the peace of Futago pass in the series do take it into a more fantastic direction. The one villain that could top a thirty-meter tall killer bear is hard to come up with – and sad to say, Takahashi never quite succeeded in it.
The dramatic sides of the Ginga series seem to balance on the fine line between laughable and the laughably fantastic – Weed doesn't seem to quite manage to stay on the better side. Later on in the series we are also introduced to some slapstick humor – and that made things awkward even in it's predecessor. The dogs that went at each other wielding clubs never really fit into the otherwise realistic environment, so let's hope we'll avoid those in Weed.
The more familiar aspects of Weed like great ideals and tragic fates are still there, and almost no character is spared. GB's tragic background story is guaranteed Takahashi-quality, the setter's friend Sasuke rejoins his owners in a touching storyline and new sides of Blue are revealed as well then the dog finally receives some kindness.
The publication itself is the regular Red Giant quality. The translation comes from the pen of Juha Mylläri who did the Ginga as well. The dogs' speech is just as lively and as ragged as before. It's a little strange though that the name of the golden retriever pup has been translated into Mer, when it clearly should be Mel. The covers of the volumes are decorated only with a group of dogs on a single colored background – which admittedly looks rather boring.
Basically Weed offers the fans of Ginga more of the same melodramatic but exciting dog adventures. For the more hardcore fans, this is probably not a good thing. Even so, Takahashi is the undeniable king of the genre, so if you're still interested in dog manga Weed is worth checking out. It's still better than the wolves in Ginga.
Nita Lohi

(first box)

The book 2/3
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The fans of larger than life dog stories get just what they want. However, Weed is not as compelling as it's predecessor, so the 60 volumes are a task to go through.

(second box)

Publication 2/3
- The printing quality and the translations work. The biggest problem are the boring covers.
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I don't have time to read it right now, but just wanted to say thank you Sandy!

It's okay to double post if no-one else has posted for a few days, by the way. Our double-post rule is to stop people from posting directly after they've posted in order to spam/gain post counts unfairly (;
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Okay, good to know, thanks! wink.gif

By the way, if someone is still interested in it, the Ginga!musical cast has now created a website for their musical as it's going to be performed again at Animecon this July.
Most of the texts are in Finnish, but some of the sections have this little "Read in English?" link at the top left and if you click that it changes the texts into English.

I heard that they've re-done some parts of the musical and tweaked some stuff, and hired new cast members for additional roles that weren't in the original. I'm not sure if I'll be able to see it this year as I'm entertaining a guest and she knows next to nothing about Ginga (and speaks English, to top it of) but we'll see. I hope it'll appear on YouTube like last time, at least!

Here's the link if someone's interested.
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.com/index.html
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This is interesting!

The Ginga!musical cast stated on their Facebook wall today that "if you didn't have a chance to get Takahashi's autograph last year at Tracon, you might want to go to Animecon this year. The guest of honor was revealed at Kikucon."

I checked Animecon's website and they didn't say anything about Takahashi though, at least not yet. I enquired about it from the musical cast and they said that the info was brand new and announced today at Kikucon's ending ceremony.

I'll be keeping an eye on the Animecon's website for confirmation. wink.gif

But if true, this could be interesting news for Takahashi's fans.

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Iieep!!
INTRESING NEWS!! Too bad this year I can't come...
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QUOTE (Sandy @ May 20 2012, 09:06 PM) *
This is interesting!

The Ginga!musical cast stated on their Facebook wall today that "if you didn't have a chance to get Takahashi's autograph last year at Tracon, you might want to go to Animecon this year. The guest of honor was revealed at Kikucon."

I checked Animecon's website and they didn't say anything about Takahashi though, at least not yet. I enquired about it from the musical cast and they said that the info was brand new and announced today at Kikucon's ending ceremony.

I'll be keeping an eye on the Animecon's website for confirmation. ;)

But if true, this could be interesting news for Takahashi's fans.

Well, the news is on Anime-magazine's website. Animecon's website doesn't say anything about it yet, but they've been updating the pages today. We'll just have to wait for Animecon's confirmation for now~
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OMG to all of the above.

Keep us posted! I googled animecon but I can't find a Finnish one... can you post the websites we need to be looking at pleases? Anime-magazines website too, I can't find that either. 8C
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QUOTE (Arano @ May 21 2012, 07:47 PM) *
OMG to all of the above.

Keep us posted! I googled animecon but I can't find a Finnish one... can you post the websites we need to be looking at pleases? Anime-magazines website too, I can't find that either. 8C

Here's the page on Anime-magazine's website on the subject. It says that Takahashi is coming to Animecon as a guest of honor and that the information was revealed at the end of Kikucon. It also mentions how he was at Tracon last year.

Now excuse me while I go curse in the corner thanks to the fact that Animecon will be held in Kuopio, which is about 400 kilometers away from where I live... >:|
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QUOTE (Digsu @ May 21 2012, 06:56 PM) *
Here's the page on Anime-magazine's website on the subject. It says that Takahashi is coming to Animecon as a guest of honor and that the information was revealed at the end of Kikucon. It also mentions how he was at Tracon last year.

Now excuse me while I go curse in the corner thanks to the fact that Animecon will be held in Kuopio, which is about 400 kilometers away from where I live... >:|


Ahhh thank you so much, this is AWESOME news. Because guess who needs a holiday?
ME! Watch out Finland, it's time for round TWO.
Once it's all confirmed that is XD
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It is confirmed. Takahashi will be visiting Finland again. <3
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Wow great news he will be going back to Finland C: Shame I can't go I would take a hand made Gin plush with me and try show him C:

I will look forward to any photos that anyone gets C:
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Seems like it is confirmed, at least if I am to trust the Anime Magazine website. ;D
It's weird though that Animecon's official website hasn't said anything about it yet. You'd think that someone like Takahashi would be on their website as quickly as possible to get them more visitors. =/

I'll be going to Animecon with my family and my friend, so I'll try to see if I can get some pictures. We'll see. ;D
I'll try to locate Arano as well so she won't get lost. :3
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Yup, it's confirmed. I'M SO FREAKING HAPPY! I wasn't able to attend Tracon last year since I was representing Finland in European Championship competition so I had NO chance of going there... But now I'm definitely going there! And I'm also going to take care some of the dutys Finnish fans have planned, for example a gift for Takahashi.

And welcome Arano to Finland - again! smile.gif I would be great to see you there. Glad that UK's not that far away from Finland and the flight tickets aren't that pricey either.
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Ohmigosh! Welcome to Finland again, Arano! :D

I will be attending too, but with a twist in the turn. For most part of one of the two days I will be in the dealers' area selling manga behind the Fantasiapelit tables. As soon as the program is revealed we will start the negotiations for the working days.

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I'll be booking everything tonight but yes, I am 100% going (:

I think we could have a separate topic like we did for tracon with all the info on, I'll make one later with Sandys help (yep you have no choice ;P). Tracon was SO much fun last year and it'll be kickass to have a little gingaboard posse again XD
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Will try get there:/ Anyone who can help a lost swedish person if I come? XD
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QUOTE (wolfie @ May 22 2012, 03:04 PM) *
Will try get there:/ Anyone who can help a lost swedish person if I come? XD


You can't get lost if you have red hair again ;D I'm sure we can help each other if you get to go!
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14-15 July, hope I can come there!! But I don't think I'll have money enough this time... *cries*
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QUOTE (wolfie @ May 22 2012, 02:04 PM) *
Will try get there:/ Anyone who can help a lost swedish person if I come? XD


Of course we can help you, all of us! biggrin.gif We sure don't want you to get lost! Aww it's so great that even people from other countries are willing to come. ;w; And I'm totally in with that Gingaboard posse thingy~
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QUOTE (wolfie @ May 22 2012, 04:04 PM) *
Will try get there:/ Anyone who can help a lost swedish person if I come? XD

Shall we try and team up again? ^^
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QUOTE (Arano @ May 22 2012, 04:13 PM) *
You can't get lost if you have red hair again ;D I'm sure we can help each other if you get to go!

Haha well at the moment I´m blond, but have my red wig thou biggrin.gif

QUOTE (taigin @ May 22 2012, 04:43 PM) *
Of course we can help you, all of us! biggrin.gif We sure don't want you to get lost! Aww it's so great that even people from other countries are willing to come. ;w; And I'm totally in with that Gingaboard posse thingy~


Aw thank you smile.gif

QUOTE (Tora @ May 22 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Shall we try and team up again? ^^

It would be great ^^ Don´t know if I can afford it this time. :/ But can check the price and hope to biggrin.gif


Would be awesome to come in my Moss cosplay biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (wolfie @ May 22 2012, 05:34 PM) *
It would be great ^^ Don´t know if I can afford it this time. :/ But can check the price and hope to biggrin.gif

I've got the same situation...
But you can check prices there, as in a package like I did before. ^^
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QUOTE (Tora @ May 22 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Shall we try and team up again? ^^



I have no argument for not coming ...
There is only one problem really, and it is the dates.
First I have to work weekdays just before and especially after. My boss, the farmer will have "Jersy stämma" at his place, and I have to work even if I get sick ..
So travel days as Friday and Sunday / Monday will be difficult. :/

Another reason is that I do year after year, always book me on a vacation in Åsele during the market "Åsele marknad" http://www.aselemarknad.se/

....But I managed to get the weekend off, after all because of Åsele... (its like 2-3hours driving time from where I live)




I am so happy that Mr Takahashi come to Finland again!
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Arano made a topic here regarding Takahashi's visit.
http://www.gingasite.net/ginga_board/index...showtopic=15590

We'll update it as we get more information. =)
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Sorry to reply here... But I didn't want to doublepost in the other topic.

Flight payed. Now just the hotel.
What hotel are you whose gonna stay there live? Need answer quick!


Flight payed and hotel booked. I and Wolfie will be living at Scandic Kuopio. ^^

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The closest hotels I can find are:
Cumulus Hotel
Best Western Atlas
Sokos Puijonsarvi

I think Cumulus is the closest and the one I think wolfie was looking at:
http://www.cumulus.fi/hotellit/kuopio/en_GB/kuopio/
Check on google maps though ^^


IN THE HOTEL I AM STAYING IN? FUCK YES.
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QUOTE (Arano @ Jun 23 2012, 01:33 PM) *
The closest hotels I can find are:
Cumulus Hotel
Best Western Atlas
Sokos Puijonsarvi

I think Cumulus is the closest and the one I think wolfie was looking at:
http://www.cumulus.fi/hotellit/kuopio/en_GB/kuopio/
Check on google maps though ^^


IN THE HOTEL I AM STAYING IN? FUCK YES.

Really?! GREAT!!!
We're coming Friday and leaving Monday.


Oh, how much does the Weed manga cost in Euro? Around price I need, so I know how much I must take out. ^^

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^ One Weed manga costs around 5-6 euros, it depends on where you buy it from; a bookstore, a supermarket etc.
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QUOTE (Tora @ Jun 23 2012, 01:31 PM) *
Really?! GREAT!!!
We're coming Friday and leaving Monday.


Oh, how much does the Weed manga cost in Euro? Around price I need, so I know how much I must take out. ^^



Me too!

Be careful about buying a of manga though Tora, they weigh a lot together and you may need to pay extra for your baggage weight on the way home (x I bought quite a lot of GNG manga last time and they had to check in my carry-on bag because it was over the limit haha.
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QUOTE (taigin @ Jun 23 2012, 03:02 PM) *
^ One Weed manga costs around 5-6 euros, it depends on where you buy it from; a bookstore, a supermarket etc.

Okey, I need to buy at least 9 manga. Meaning, all Weed manga exept 3;rd one, and Riki. ^^

QUOTE (Arano @ Jun 23 2012, 03:25 PM) *
Me too!

Be careful about buying a of manga though Tora, they weigh a lot together and you may need to pay extra for your baggage weight on the way home (x I bought quite a lot of GNG manga last time and they had to check in my carry-on bag because it was over the limit haha.

Perfect! We're landing in Kuopio 13:50 (1:50 PM) on Friday, and our flight goes 20:30 (8:30 PM) on Sunday. ^^

Hmm... Maybe I shall take my big normal bag with me? XD
And I live in Sweden, near country. wink.gif
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Attention all those who are interested in the Riki manga:

I read the Finnish Anime magazine yesterday, and according to it the Riki manga will be published on July the 13th.
Meaning on Friday just before Animecon. So if you're coming here and thinking of getting it before the convention, you may have difficulty tracking it down as it arrives in stores at different times. It shouldn't really be an issue, but I'm just giving you a head's up. ;D

But it can be purchased from Animecon as well, so it may be easier to just wait and get it from the convention if you're coming.
If not, I'm sure Urumi or Fantasiapelit or other Finnish online stores sell them, just like normally. =)
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Okay, it is the bleak time after the Animecon, when happy experiences turn to amazing memories. ;_;
But it turns out, like Kretari noticed, that even the newspapers have noticed Animecon this year. They made a page long story about Takahashi-sensei.

Kretari (being pretty busy with all her translations as it is) gave the story for me to translate. So here you go!

Picture of the Helsingin Sanomat page is here: http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/s...nt=IMG_0851.jpg

Yoshihiro Takahashi article in Helsingin Sanomat

Title: Mangaka still works 12 hours a day
Original article in Helsingin Sanomat by Jutta Sarhimaa
Photo of the article by Kretari, translation to English by Sandy


Ingress:
The creator of the bear hound Gin, Yoshihiro Takahashi, draws a manga that has strong morales.

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Since he was 12 years old, Yoshihiro Takahashi knew that he wanted to become a mangaka.
He admired Hiroshi Motomiya who drew a fighting manga where young boys battled in tournamant matches held between schools. The manga was published in the 1970's in the Shonen Jump magazines which showcased manga directed at young boys.

Takahashi worked at Toyota's factories, manufacturing car parts. But he dreamed of drawing animals. He decided to apply to become an assistant for the mangaka he admired. Doing this was the traditional way of getting into the manga industry.
"Motomiya answered: Come again in half a year's time. If the quality of your drawings has improved, you'll get in", Takahashi says.
The quality did improve, but Takahashi had to work three long months on a probation period before he got to draw for real.

Takahashi celebrated his 40th year as mangaka last year. His most famous work, Ginga, is about warrior dogs. In the epic story, dogs from all around Japan unite to become a massive army in order to take down the giant bears terrorizing the people of the region. The bears are led by a deranged, red-maned Akakabuto (translates to: Red helmet). The main character Gin is of the noble Akita breed, who's fate it is to fight against Akakabuto.
Gin works according to the ancient Japanese samurai etchics, the bushido code.
"The basic rule in bushido is that in order to do the right thing, it is alright to die for your cause. To survive is not the most important thing - but the fact that you did the right thing", Takahashi describes.
Reading the story becomes easier if you imagine the dogs as humans, or samurai warriors. But what do the bears represent?
Takahashi thinks for a long time.
"They represent foreign attackers. Maybe from Finland's point of view, they could be Russia?"

Takahashi often laughs during the interview, politely chuckling. He looks like your average japanese white-collar worker. And work is something his visit to Finland definitely creates: Today and tomorrow he spends as the guest of honor at Animecon (a convention directed to those interested in japanese culture) in Kuopio. He has fan meetings and autographing events. His publisher Yuji Saka follows him around like a shadow.
Takahashi visited Finland for the first time last September.
"I was surprised by the fact that the Finnish fans were so quiet and calm - and didn't crowd me. There is a saying in Japan that the people of the north are calmer, but it seems to apply to the rest of the world as well", Takahashi says.
Originally the story of Gin was only about action.
"Since then I've added a constant presence of strong morals. In the end, good prevails and evil doesn't."

The strong morals come from Japan, from Takahashi's childhood. Times were hard and strong morals acted as strict guidelines for people. If someone dropped their wallet, the one who found it took it to the police.
The characters of Ginga strive towards their intended goal with all they have. The series is currently more popular in Finland than it is in Japan.
"When Ginga was published, I believe that a part of it's success was because it reminded people of these disappearing values, like of friendship and respecting others. The series' success in Finland tells me that people are starting to miss these things in here as well", Takahashi says.

Ginga is an experience most people from 25-35 year-olds in Finland have had, tied tightly with their generation. An animated version of it was published on VHS tapes under the G -rating back in the year 1989. Back then, the japanese version of animation was still very foreign and unappreciated. That is why the mountains of Ou changed to Alaska - and the bears were all Grizzlies.
Even though the series was heavily censored, the deaths of the characters were often sad. When Punainen Jättiläinen started publishing the manga in Finnish in 2010, the nostalgic bond many of the Finns had with the series paid off. Exactly one year ago, Ginga was the most sold manga in Finland. Weed and Orion, stories that speak of future dog generations, attract even more younger fans.
Takahashi is certainly not threatened with unemployment. He often draws 12 hours a day.
"Developing the story and coming up with new villains is often harder than the actual drawing."

The box at the bottom

Title: Who?
Yoshihiro Takahashi

- Born 18th of September 1953 in Higashinaruse, Akita prefecture
- Has drawn many series directed to boys, like sports and adventure stories. Most famous of which is about bear hounds.
- Hopeanuoli/Ginga (Ginga Nagareboshi Gin) was published as a manga in 1983-87. The 21 episode long anime series was published 1987.
- Takahashi continued drawing dogs with 60 volume long story about Gin's son Weed. It ended in 2009. Currently Takahashi is drawing the adventures of Weed's son, Orion.
- Takahashi has a black labrador named Liz. She is named after Elizabeth Taylor.

Photo text:
A japanese mangaka Yoshihiro Takahashi is visiting the Animecon convention this weekend in Kuopio.

Picture text:
Dog characters from Ginga."

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Amazing! Really love the text. Thanks for translating Sandy. ^^
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Thank you so much for translating Sandy! I like this article a lot. (:
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:56 AM
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Hi everybody! I discussed today with Wolfie in Facebook chat about this official fan society of Ginga in Finland called Suomen Hopeanuoli-fanit ry (started by fans, officially registerated). We're just working on it that get some information in English and maybe other laguanges too to our website...

(Could it be possible start own topic for it? I'm the activity organizer in there and me and other active members will like to answer if there is any questions or ideas about it. smile.gif )

Anyway, fans who lives outside of Finland are welcome also to join. Only that most of our program will be in Finland and in Finnish, but if it doesn't matter and somebody want's to join it is possible.

Costs 5€ per year. Member must be minimum 11 years old.

First send your information to our secretary:

Type of membership: Normal member
First name and surname:
Nickname:
Date of birth: day.month.year (like i.e. 20.05.1989)
Address:
Postal code:
Post place:
City:
Country:
Mother language:
E-mail:
Date: day.month.year

Payment is due by: (Name, if payment will not come from your own account)
Minors need parents permission for joining:
-Free form text where parent mentions his/her own name and gives permission to his/her child for join-

E-mail this to sihteeri[at]hopeanuolifanit.fi

Second you will get answer where is information about paying the membership to our bank account.

Third when the payment has arrived, our treasurer (me on this moment) confirms it to secretary and he will send you email to confirm your membership.


As a member, you will get account to our website forum and chat. There will come one board for international conversation "In English", becouse in this moment everything is in Finnish.. With account can see everything website includes. For members there is Ginga Comics, place for own fan art, our fan magazine in pdf and other sort of stuf..

Members are also avaivable to become active members if they want and take a part of making program in our society.

Members will also get member cards, when society gets them done. (On the moment we are waiting answer from the company which should print them...) Member magazine, our t-shirts and other things are also cheaper for members and they will get special offers from our partners like Futago Shop, Urumi, Ginga-kauppa and Manga Cafe (in Helsinki).

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Excellent! I'm at work now so can't say much, but I think a topic for this would be good that you can update it etc. I'll PM you later (:
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Ok, guys, you can now find the information about The Ginga Fan Society of Finland in here:
http://www.gingasite.net/ginga_board/index...showtopic=16280

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post Nov 1 2012, 02:56 PM
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Wohooo I'm sooooo freaking happyyy~! Excuse me. biggrin.gif

Shin Gaiden 1 & 2 + GANIN (!!) will be translated into Finnish. Woop woop! The first one will be released in December and the second one somewhere around February. Takahashi and his publishers had given their approval to translate Ganin too. smile.gif

I'm just spazzing here by myself, this totally saved my day.
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QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 02:56 PM) *
Wohooo I'm sooooo freaking happyyy~! Excuse me. biggrin.gif

Shin Gaiden 1 & 2 + GANIN (!!) will be translated into Finnish. Woop woop! The first one will be released in December and the second one somewhere around February. Takahashi and his publishers had given their approval to translate Ganin too. smile.gif

I'm just spazzing here by myself, this totally saved my day.

YOU GUYS ARE SO FREAKING LUCKY!!!!
Will so buy them! So are Ganin in one maga for itself or in one of the Shin Gaiden (as it's in the Shin Gaiden Remix only in Japan)?
Know anything about Weed Gaiden? ^^
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I know, I sometimes feel bad posting about these things here 'cause it's us Finns that get these translated and not you guys. sad.gif Hope you will be happy too though, these translations might give some good popularity to your countries to get Ginga translated. It's just really amazing to actually READ something in your own language that you've been a fan of since a child and until now never understood anything. I hope you guys will get to experience this feeling some day!

Ganin will be in Shin Gaiden 2. Actually it was Urumi who suggested the publishers to include Ganin too so we should be thanking her as well. biggrin.gif

Oh and about Weed Gaiden. We don't know about that yet but it seems like anything can happen in Finnish Ginga fandom so fingers crossed! I'm pretty sure it will be translated some day too.

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QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 01:56 PM) *
Wohooo I'm sooooo freaking happyyy~! Excuse me. biggrin.gif

Shin Gaiden 1 & 2 + GANIN (!!) will be translated into Finnish. Woop woop! The first one will be released in December and the second one somewhere around February. Takahashi and his publishers had given their approval to translate Ganin too. smile.gif

I'm just spazzing here by myself, this totally saved my day.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmygosh!



So happy for you guys! XD ...and myself, because shuttup and take my money, Finland! >8V

QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 04:04 PM) *
It's just really amazing to actually READ something in your own language that you've been a fan of since a child and until now never understood anything. I hope you guys will get to experience this feeling some day!

I want that ;A; but sadly we still have that feeling of "You can look! But lol you can't read." I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I'm always excited to hear about ALL the new Ginga-things, especially when it comes to Finland because if anything, it will be Finland and the Finnish fans who will help the manga spread further afield. Especially now things like the Gaiden stories are being published! So don't feel bad at all about posting about new things here, relish in being a news-giver to Ginga Board :'D

QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 04:04 PM) *
Ganin will be in Shin Gaiden 2. Actually it was Urumi who suggested the publishers to include Ganin too so we should be thanking her as well. biggrin.gif

Well that settles it - Uru wins.
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QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 05:04 PM) *
I know, I sometimes feel bad posting about these things here 'cause it's us Finns that get these translated and not you guys. sad.gif Hope you will be happy too though, these translations might give some good popularity to your countries to get Ginga translated. It's just really amazing to actually READ something in your own language that you've been a fan of since a child and until now never understood anything. I hope you guys will get to experience this feeling some day!

And I will say that till the publishers here in Sweden get a big kick in the ass and start translate (and advertise it!) Ginga. Otherwise I'm learning Japanese myself (started last spring and hopefully continue next spring), start a a company and translate myself (plus take back manga, sine I want to see it in normal stores like in Finland).

Finland is near enough, just the language I have veeeeeeeeeery hard with. XD


And just continuew to post news about Ginga! Since we're just glad that you guys can read it and understand, so you can answer some questions that been asked during all these years. ^^


QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 1 2012, 05:04 PM) *
Ganin will be in Shin Gaiden 2. Actually it was Urumi who suggested the publishers to include Ganin too so we should be thanking her as well. biggrin.gif

Oh and about Weed Gaiden. We don't know about that yet but it seems like anything can happen in Finnish Ginga fandom so fingers crossed! I'm pretty sure it will be translated some day too.

GO URUMI!!!! She's surley one of the best Ginga fan in Finland (as she got the contacts and all wink.gif)
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I was so happy listening this today. biggrin.gif

Is there really not any company who would like to publish Ginga in English?
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Oh, I forgot to tell you about the Finnish translation of Shin Gaiden. The books will be called as Sankaritarinoita = Hero stories. I think that's a good name. smile.gif
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QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 2 2012, 12:04 PM) *
Oh, I forgot to tell you about the Finnish translation of Shin Gaiden. The books will be called as Sankaritarinoita = Hero stories. I think that's a good name. smile.gif

A really nice name. ^^
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Latest news about the Finnish Shin Gaidens!

It will only cost 6,90€ (~9$) and it will have...

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COLOUR PAGES! Wohoo! So definitely worth the buy even for you who don't understand Finnish. It will also be printed on a better quality paper.
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QUOTE (taigin @ Nov 6 2012, 06:37 PM) *
Latest news about the Finnish Shin Gaidens!

It will only cost 6,90€ (~9$) and it will have...

...

COLOUR PAGES! Wohoo! So definitely worth the buy even for you who don't understand Finnish. It will also be printed on a better quality paper.

Amazing!!!! So looking forward!!
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Excellent! Really can't wait ^^
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I feel so bad, I promised Arano I'd translate these articles..but it was ages ago. =/ I've been busy, but here they are!
Arano, feel free to move the Animecon article to the archive if you want, but I'll post it initially here so that more people will see it. ;D
This post will include an Animecon article about Takahashi (from the JapanPop magazine 6/2012), and a Riki manga review from Animelehti 7/2012.

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JapanPop 6/2012
Original texts by: Helena Lipponen
Translated by: Sandy

(Picture caption at the top: The English setter GB is among Takahashi's favourite characters to draw.)

Interviewing Animecon's guest of honor
Yoshihiro Takahashi

Yoshihiro Takahashi is Finland's best known mangaka despite the fact that the Finnish translation of his works only started a few years back.The Anime version is well known, though: Ginga Nagareboshi Gin aka Hopeanuoli is a series that practically every 20-year-old in Finland knows, whether they are into anime or not. The story about Gin's son, Ginga Densetsu Weed, has in turn lured in a whole new generation. Even in Japan Ginga shows no signs of ending: after Weed ended in it's 60th volume, the story continues with his reckless son Orion.
Takahashi himself was not aware of the popularity of his series' in Finland until last year. “I had heard rumors that Ginga was popular in the Nordic countries, but that was about twenty years ago”, Takahashi says. The Nordic, edited version of the anime is something he has not seen, but a similar fate happened to Ginga in Japan, where the 21-episode long series was cut down to about two hours.

“It was really unclear, you couldn't make heads or tails of the plot”, Takahashi says, slightly disappointed. In general, the creator of the series' is slightly suspicious of the anime versions. “In both animes the drawings look really different from my own, so they looked a bit strange in the beginning. But a great thing about anime is that it reaches different people and you are out there with other big series' like Naruto.”
This is Takahashi's second visit to Finland and he says he's once again surprised about how warmly he was welcomed. It's tough for a mangaka with an on-going series to take trips like this. Takahashi, however, laughs and says that he'll happily make the trip again – if his back can take it.

(There's a quote here: “Female fans seem to like it when the characters die a heroic death, fighting for their cause. Apparently men like this can't be found in Japan.”)

Finnish Ginga fans are devoted to their cause and the oldest of the fans have been involved for over ten years. However, Takahashi can't point any major differences between Finnish and Japanese fans. Surprisingly, even in Japan Takahashi's works are followed by a large female audience. Even though Ginga Densetsu Weed and Orion are published in the Manga Goraku-magazine (that's directed at male readers), about 80% of the readers are female.
“Female fans seem to like it when the characters die a heroic death, fighting for their cause. Apparently men like this can't be found in Japan”, Takahashi explains with a smile.

In the violent world of Ginga lots of characters do meet their death, as war wouldn't seem realistic if everyone survived it. Some deaths have not been pleasant for Takahashi, either. “In the end of Weed I killed one of the main characters and in retrospect it has been bugging me.”
However, Weed and Gin are safe as when asked about their possible fates, Takahashi gives a negative answer. The old heroes can live on in peace, it seems. The new lead dog Orion, however, is not so safe. Ginga Densetsu Weed: Orion is a direct sequel to the Weed mangas and the paradise the dogs live in is once again in danger when a volcano erupts and separates packs and families from one another. The main characters Orion and his brothers Sirius and Rigel do their best to re-unite their families and to defend their home against invaders.

“I've been thinking about Orion's fate. He lives a fighter's life like his grandfather Riki and his uncle Yukimura, so he may die during the series”, Takahashi ponders. He has not made any final decisions and lets the story flow on on it's own. He hasn't even decided how long the story will be. For example in Gin the story started focusing on dogs and they started talking only after the publisher had suggested it.
The Orion manga offers Finnish fans lots of interesting things, other than with it's Ginga theme. In the 19th volume, a new character named Andy will appear. His name is derived from Antti. “I considered Antti has a dog's name after the publishers from Sangatsu Manga and the Punainen Jättiläinen (Red Giant), Valkama and Grönlund. However, the name is too hard to pronounce in Japan”, Takahashi announces. Andy is dedicated to the Finnish fans, as he is originally from Finland. In addition Andy has a family roots in Finland: he is the nephew of the German Shepard John.
“Andy's role will be similar with the one John had,” Takahashi reveals. But is John Finnish then? “I haven't really decided on it,” Takahashi chuckles. “Many people here in Finland have been excited about the possibility, but I need to think about it.”

Last year, at Tracon, Takahashi mentioned putting in a karelian bearhound into the story. Is Andy the result of this promise? “No, the Karelian Bearhound will be a character of it's own. I could possibly write it into the story next year. Maybe Andy could bring it with him from Finland? Then again, it may be that it may appear in a different story entirely, rather than Orion”, Takahashi continues. The Ginga stories are so popular in Japan, that Takahashi works for two different publishers. That brings additional rules into using the characters.
Takahashi reveals other little pieces of information. “The other main characters from Ginga will not have a really big role in Orion. They are so old by already...then again, Akame is a ninja. He might have a few surprises left.” Cross's background story may get some more light shed into it as well. “Cross has known Unsai, but she left him after meeting Ben.” Unsai is one of the new characters who are there helping Orion in his battles.

Even though Orion is published weekly, Takahashi also has other plans. He has so far published multiple works describing the past of different characters. Along with Riki's childhood he has also made stories for the Kai brothers and Benizakura.
“I would like to draw stories for Ben, Cross and Akame, too”, Takahashi says. He doesn't plan on continuing Riki's story despite the interest many fans have shown for it. “It would be centered around the time when Riki has lost his memory, and that wouldn't be very interesting.” Takahashi thinks for a moment and then grins. “How about a story about Akakabuto's childhood? Or would that be too unfair towards the dogs?”
Takahashi regards his own works with humor and knows how to laugh at the mistakes he's made. “The story arc in Weed where the villains are monkeys..for that, I would like to extend an apology to all the fans.”
The Ginga mangas have continued exceptionally long in Japan. Over 100 books and additional stories have been published already. Other Ginga merchandise is harder to find. “The Ginga merchandise is expensive in Japan, and I bet it's even more expensive here in Finland,” Takahashi adds. “Some Weed figures were made in China, but they were pretty bad.” Most of the Weed merchandise has been made due to different events and accomplishments. And, for example fabric book covers about Orion were made and given out as fan presents when the series had reached it's 100th chapter.

“No solid decisions have been made as it's hard to decide what sort of products to make and what the quantities should be,” Takahashi's reporter Yuji Saka says. Just making Orion keeps Takahashi very busy so he doesn't have a lot of spare time to focus on merchandise, even though he is involved in planning them. Just deciding on the breeds and appearances of the characters takes a lot of time. The breeds Takahashi chooses are ones that he himself has owned or would like to own. The appearances and colors for the dogs he mostly does based on how he's feeling.
“The most fun characters to draw are GB and Smith.” Hardest to draw Takahashi names Gennai and Masamune. “Masamune's drawing style actually changes during the series. For a little while, I drew him differently and didn't notice it until a while later.” And while he can name favourites among the characters, it's hard to pick his favourite story.

(Quote: “The story arc in Weed where the villains are monkeys..for that, I would like to extend an apology to all the fans.”)

“I can't really pick a favourite among stories because they – Ginga, Weed and Orion – are essentially parts of the same story. Ginga had more action and Akakabuto was great, so it may be my favourite. On the other hand, Weed and Orion have a wider selection of villains: Hougen, the russian dogs, Sanada..”
Takahashi has spoken about his visit to Finland in Orion's back cover, and in a short story about John that is dedicated to his Finnish fans. This has gained some attention in Japan. “Many people have gotten interested about the story, because it's so popular in Finland”, Yuji Saka tells us.
The popularity in Finland is on-going, as the fanbase that has existed for over ten years grows and evolves. For example, Finland's first official anime organization, Hopeanuolifanit ry (The Ginga Fan Society of Finland), was founded not long ago, of which Takahashi is an honorary member. Lots of rumors about Takahashi's other works being translated into Finnish also circle around – and not all will remain rumors, either.

(Picture at the top: Kurohabaki Masamune, one of Ginga Densetsu Weed: Orion's villains)

(Picture at the bottom: Takahashi's mangaka career celebrated it's 40th anniversary this year. An exhibition about his works in Yokote's manga museum celebrated this.)



Anime magazine 7/2012
Original text by: Nita Lohi
Translated by: Sandy

Riki manga Review
Riki review in Animelehti

Riki
In father's footsteps

The fans of Ginga never seem to get enough and crave more and more information even about the most insignificant of the manga's characters. The mangaka has perhaps not spared a single thought for the fate of Gin's siblings – or even Chutora – but for some characters additional stories have been written.
Riki, a one volume long manga tells of not only the first steps of Gin's Father Riki but also about how Akakabuto and and old man Takeda became mortal enemies. In addition the book sheds some light on how Daisuke initially came to know this strong-willed hunter.

Humble Beginnings
Gin and his son Weed faced great expectations right from their birth. Therefore it's refreshing that Riki is not some fate-chosen defeater of bears right from the start, and he has to grow into the role. The dog, who could easily be called the most fearsome fighter in all of the Ginga series, is as a pup a cry-baby who yearns for his mother's attention. Old man Takeda doesn't even glance at the runt of the litter when he comes around to look for a successor to the puppies' father, Shiro.

Riki is the last one to remain with his mother, Yamabuki. When she needs to be returned to her rightful owner, he is sadly left alone. While trying to find his way back to his mother, Riki has to face the cold world of the adults. After barely making it through an attack by a gang of strays, he's whining and saying that he doesn't want to fight at all. It isn't until he needs to protect a man with his life that his bearhound instincts start to awaken.

The protagonists of the Ginga series' don't really have much luck when it comes to father relationships. Riki loses his father Shiro in a battle against Akakabuto. When he meets Shiro for the first time he hides his identity, not wanting to appear weak in his father's eyes. After saving the pup from a river Shiro tells him that the others bully him because he cries. If Riki wants the bullying to stop, he needs to become stronger. Such an attitude may seem harsh to the readers, but is not unusual in Japan. It also fits the general philosophy of the series. “There's no strength without courage”, as Shiro says.

A publication with all the goods
The visual appearance of the drawings is traditional, 80's Takahashi. However, at the end of the manga, the now two-year-old Riki still looks slightly puppy-like. He's not an experienced bearhound just yet, but it would've been nice to see some changes in him.

The print quality in the Finnish version is good and the translation the same quality the fans are accustomed to. In addition, the manga starts with a greeting from the mangaka himself to his Finnish fans, along with some color printed images.

The manga ends with a battle against Akakabuto, and after long arguments with the stray dog gangs it seems, in comparison, a little too brief. Even so it's a good place to end the story as it starts the fight between the hunter and the bear – and gives Riki his motivation for revenge.

Many fans have wanted to find out more about how Riki came to be the leader of Ohu. Those stories will probably be left to the readers' imaginations as Takahashi himself has said that Riki, when suffering from amnesia, would not be a very interesting main character.

More side stories are, however, on their way. And when the Ginga fandom shows no signs of dying down, there's a good chance that these stories will reach the Finnish readers as well.

Book: Worth buying
- A working, brief story into Riki's childhood. A must-buy for Ginga fans.

Publication:
- The volume with good quality printing is crowned by the mangaka's greeting and additional coloured images.

The manga translation (read from right to the left!)

Riki wasn't intending to run away.
The strays just couldn't see through this plan.

Riki had never been trained to protect humans from predators.
Perhaps the thing fuelling his actions were his bearhound instincts.

In order to protect the helpless human cub from these villains...
Riki had to attract their attention.

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Thanks for the translation, Sandy! This was a really interesting read.

QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 8 2012, 06:55 AM) *
In the violent world of Ginga lots of characters do meet their death, as war wouldn't seem realistic if everyone survived it. Some deaths have not been pleasant for Takahashi, either. “In the end of Weed I killed one of the main characters and in retrospect it has been bugging me.”


Somehow, this doesn't surprise me. I always got the impression that he really liked the character of GB, so killing him off must have been harder than some of the others.

QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 8 2012, 06:55 AM) *
Cross's background story may get some more light shed into it asell. “Cross has known Unsai, but she left him after meeting Ben.” Unsai is one of the new characters who are there helping Orion in his battles.


I'm not a big fan of the Orion series, but this has the potential to be really cool. I'm certainly interested to know in what capacity she knew him and how long it's been since they've seen each other.

QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 8 2012, 06:55 AM) *
(Quote: “The story arc in Weed where the villains are monkeys..for that, I would like to extend an apology to all the fans.”)


Ha ha! Apology accepted, Yoshi. At least some of the characters introduced there were pretty cool.
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Amazing article! And BIG thanks Sandy for translating. ^^

QUOTE (Sandy @ Nov 8 2012, 12:55 PM) *
Lots of rumors about Takahashi's other works being translated into Finnish also circle around – and not all will remain rumors, either.

Iiie! Looking forward to see what else of Yakahashi-san's work will be translated. ^^
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Sandy you're brilliant! Thanks a lot, this was awesome to read! I'll add it to the archive =D <3
And don't feel bad you silly goose =P
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QUOTE (Tora @ Nov 8 2012, 10:39 PM) *
Amazing article! And BIG thanks Sandy for translating. ^^


Iiie! Looking forward to see what else of Yakahashi-san's work will be translated. ^^

It was refering to the Shin Gaidens. ^^ This was in JapanPop about month ago so Shin Gaiden was only a rumor by then.
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It was refering to the Shin Gaidens. ^^ This was in JapanPop about month ago so Shin Gaiden was only a rumor by then.

I guessed that, but I still hope for more, like Weed Gaiden. Finland is such a great country. ^^
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I saw on twitter the picture of the Finnish Shin Gaiden covers in a magazine (click on my twitter link in my sig to see it in my most recent retweet). Anyone else in Finland seen this article yet and knows any more info?
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It'st just news that tells that Shin Gaiden is being translated in Finnish. Not any other info, I think.

Shin Gaiden 1 will be at stores at 18th December.
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I like the disign on them; how they've put the text. ^^
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The pages from Shueisha Remix that were about Takahashi visiting Tracon last year was translated into Finnish and English by the Gin!The Musical group for their advent calendar. You can see it here.
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QUOTE (Digsu @ Dec 6 2012, 11:58 AM) *
The pages from Shueisha Remix that were about Takahashi visiting Tracon last year was translated into Finnish and English by the Gin!The Musical group for their advent calendar. You can see it here.

Oh my! So nice of them!! Great that they do that in Japan so they can see how big it is up here (mostly Finland of curse). ^^
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The page spread is really sweet! I think I'll go back to the Tracon and Animecon archives and add some more stuff to do with the musical, linking to this and so forth ^^
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A video of the new Shin Gaiden is on Youtube. Looks nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfjIh6AKToM...8WQ&index=1
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QUOTE (Arano @ Dec 17 2012, 08:50 PM) *
A video of the new Shin Gaiden is on Youtube. Looks nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfjIh6AKToM...8WQ&index=1

Hooray!! I so gonna buy this! Anyone, please tell us more (specelly names of characters). ^^
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QUOTE (Digsu @ Dec 6 2012, 11:58 AM) *
The pages from Shueisha Remix that were about Takahashi visiting Tracon last year was translated into Finnish and English by the Gin!The Musical group for their advent calendar. You can see it here.

Oh that nice to hear the the manga arrive safe to the Hopeanuolimusikaali, The Musical group ^^
So nice and great to see, read it in English as well ^^

It's way awesome that the Shin Gaiden will be translate

So vol 1 will come out at 18th December, 2012 in Finland
At youtube it says that vol 2 will come out 5 May , 2013

I hope that some Swedish store will take in the manga's.
But sometime it that talk a time.
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I got my hands on the new Shin Gaiden manga, and on the last page it says that vol. 2 will be published on the 5th of March 2013. So we don't need to wait until may to read it. ;D
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If anyone else follows Gin! The Musical Christmas blog, you'll know that they've posted the full musical on youtube... with English subtitles! How cool and thoughtful is that! =D
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/2...ideotaltiointi/
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QUOTE (Arano @ Dec 24 2012, 01:10 AM) *
If anyone else follows Gin! The Musical Christmas blog, you'll know that they've posted the full musical on youtube... with English subtitles! How cool and thoughtful is that! =D
http://hopeanuolimusikaali.wordpress.com/2...ideotaltiointi/

AZAM!!! I will as soon as I get home send the Musical staff the Swedish version I've translated. I just need to check small thing on it first. ^^
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I came here to post about the musical, but I see that Arano has beaten me to it. xD
I really like the fact that they included the English subtitles. =D It'll help them gain a wider audience and more fans.
Not to mention that now you guys can watch it and enjoy it again. And understand the dialogue too. XD
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This doesn't quite fit into "Ginga" news per say, but it does involve giving a bit of feedback (if one so desires).

There is a Desugaala, which honors and awards the best of the Convention year 2012. There is a public vote for the nominees, and there are a few Ginga themed nominees. =)

Vuoden 2012 paras kotimainen mangajulkaisu = Year 2012's best manga publisation
(You can find Riki in the category and vote. ;D)

Vuoden 2012 kunniavieras = The honorary guest of 2012
Yoshihiro Takahashi can be voted for! =D (Also, Yasuhiro Nakura is there..I don't know whom to vote for! ;__;)

Vuoden 2012 skeneilmiö = The "scene" phenomenon of 2012
The animeconcert can be voted for, as can Ginga!the musical and the Ginga room. =)

The actual voting form can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...CNGY4c3ZFN3c6MQ
And I can translate the rest of it if someone wants me to. ;D
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Jan 8 2013, 01:32 PM) *
This doesn't quite fit into "Ginga" news per say, but it does involve giving a bit of feedback (if one so desires).

There is a Desugaala, which honors and awards the best of the Convention year 2012. There is a public vote for the nominees, and there are a few Ginga themed nominees. =)

Vuoden 2012 paras kotimainen mangajulkaisu = Year 2012's best manga publisation
(You can find Riki in the category and vote. ;D)

Vuoden 2012 kunniavieras = The honorary guest of 2012
Yoshihiro Takahashi can be voted for! =D (Also, Yasuhiro Nakura is there..I don't know whom to vote for! ;__;)

Vuoden 2012 skeneilmiö = The "scene" phenomenon of 2012
The animeconcert can be voted for, as can Ginga!the musical and the Ginga room. =)

The actual voting form can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...CNGY4c3ZFN3c6MQ
And I can translate the rest of it if someone wants me to. ;D

Oh, I voted. I thank Google translate for what I needed to vote for in the others.
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Voted ={D
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Yay! =D
I voted too. I think it's important to give credit to awesome guests and programs, and we had plenty to choose from last year. =D
I don't know how much weight these awards have in choosing what sort of stuff gets chosen for the years to come, but you never know. XD
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What is with Weed manga 15?ohmy.gif smile.gif
It should published on 08.:S
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QUOTE (RiKy @ Jan 10 2013, 06:42 PM) *
What is with Weed manga 15?ohmy.gif smile.gif
It should published on 08.:S

I don't know, I don't have neither seen it in shops... But some members on Kaksoissola's forum have already got their GDW vol. 15 manga, so it'll (probably) soon come also in to other shops. happy.gif

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QUOTE (allu @ Jan 10 2013, 06:13 PM) *
I don't know, I don't have neither seen it in shops... But some members on Kaksoissola's forum have already got their GDW vol. 15 manga, so it'll (probably) soon come also in to other shops. happy.gif

Yeey biggrin.gif I wait for it ^^
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I found a picture from Weed 15 finnish manga ^^
It's look like cool biggrin.gif
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Weed vol 16 manga *˛*
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That is one bright colour! I bet peoples shelves are looking like rainbows with these by now =D
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Desugaala's results were published today at Desucon Frostbite. Yoshihiro Takahashi came in second after Noriaki Sugiyama, who was the guest of honour at last year's Desucon.

Gin! The Musical was third at the scene phenomenon category, but the Anime concert at the same convention won.

Those were the two I found out, I missed the year's best manga publication, unfortunately. :/
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QUOTE (Kretari @ Feb 16 2013, 05:29 PM) *
Desugaala's results were published today at Desucon Frostbite. Yoshihiro Takahashi came in second after Noriaki Sugiyama, who was the guest of honour at last year's Desucon.

Gin! The Musical was third at the scene phenomenon category, but the Anime concert at the same convention won.

Those were the two I found out, I missed the year's best manga publication, unfortunately. :/


Takahashi coming in second isn't bad! And I figured the musical might have lost out to the Anime concert (x it was a tough category to come in on top and the concert appealed to everyone.

Thanks for the news Kretari =D
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Second is great for Takahashi-san!
And the Animé-concert winning is no surprice. And third place is not bad for the musical. ^^
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QUOTE (RiKy @ Feb 16 2013, 04:15 AM) *
Weed vol 16 manga *˛*
Not bad weed.gif


I personally like the flat colour backgrounds as opposed to the photography. The photography backgrounds felt so tacky.
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Shin Gaiden 2 is out now ^^


(from twitter)
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Will go to Adlibris as soon as Weed vol 17 comes out so I can buy both! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Arano @ Mar 2 2013, 01:35 AM) *
Shin Gaiden 2 is out now ^^


I'll send you one on Thursday. ;D
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QUOTE (Sandy @ Mar 6 2013, 02:36 PM) *
I'll send you one on Thursday. ;D


For reals?! I love you ;D;
I have stuff to send you too, but am waiting for a certain set of stamps to come out this month...
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QUOTE (Arano @ Mar 6 2013, 05:41 PM) *
For reals?! I love you ;D;
I have stuff to send you too, but am waiting for a certain set of stamps to come out this month...


Yes, for reals. ^__^
I'll go to Helsinki tomorrow, so I might as well do that while I'm there. ~_^
Yay! =D I can't wait!

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Weed 17 weed.gif

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Nice, though I had hoped for more orange color. ^^
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Weed manga 18 weed.gif gb.gif sasuke.gif kyoushiro.gif

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Now this color I liked, fits. ^^
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I've probably already said this before, but I honestly prefer the solid colours over the "they shopped around Google Images to find this" backrounds.
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Weed 19 weed.gif




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Starting from number 21 Finnish WEED-mangas will have similar covers as Japanese ones. At this moment Japanese publishers have given ok to mangas 21, 22 and 23 covers. Rest are still not done.

I'm verry happy about this as GDW-manga covers are bit boring.
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QUOTE (Uru @ May 20 2013, 08:43 PM) *
Starting from number 21 Finnish WEED-mangas will have similar covers as Japanese ones. At this moment Japanese publishers have given ok to mangas 21, 22 and 23 covers. Rest are still not done.

I'm verry happy about this as GDW-manga covers are bit boring.

What does this mean? More precisely? Looking forward though. ^^
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QUOTE (Tora @ May 20 2013, 07:45 PM) *
What does this mean? More precisely? Looking forward though. ^^


With photo in the background wasn't it? But probably not the same than in the Japanese mangas.

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With photo in the background wasn't it? But probably not the same than in the Japanese mangas.

Can it be own photos they're taking then? With somewhat same background?
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We don't know that much yet, this is newest message from Antti:

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(just rough translation, but you get the idea)
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^ Ahhh I have high hopes they'll be better backgrounds than the Japanese stock images!
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Can I say I'm looking forward to these new surprice covers. ^^
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If it's true, what Uru said, then it's the last colourful cover :/

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Yup, last colour cover. The upcoming ones are photos, photos taken in Finland. So they probetly fit better.
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I get a pic from the new cover too xD
This pic on the Weed 20 wink.gif



It's not look like the original, but same....tongue.gif
<- (it's the original japanese tongue.gif )

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Me too, Finnish is better.
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I agree with Tora and Marier, I'm tired of flying dogs |D

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Oulu, a city located in northern Finland, will have a Ginga themed anime convention 9.11.2013. Here's the official website, feel free to use Google translate. ;D
http://www.chibi.fi/

Oh I am so stoked about this. If things go well there will be super awesome things happening, for example a live Ginga auction organised by me. If I get the permission that is.

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QUOTE (taigin @ Jun 12 2013, 12:55 PM) *
Oulu, a city located in northern Finland, will have a Ginga themed anime convention 9.11.2013. Here's the official website, feel free to use Google translate. ;D
http://www.chibi.fi/

Oh I am so stoked about this. If things go well there will be super awesome things happening, for example a live Ginga auction organised by me. If I get the permission that is.



A Ginga themed con sounds brilliant ;D; How big is chibicon?
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850 tickets will be sold, so in my book that's a fair amount of people for one day at one place. ^^
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Last time at Oulu, we had about 650 visitors. I think it's very likely that we will get 850 now.
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Sounds azam!! You're so lucky Finland!! Too bad I won't come this year...
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really wanna try to come ^-^
Gonna be really great biggrin.gif and even better because i live so close ;D
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I just love it biggrin.gif <3



More better, then the last 20 ^^
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QUOTE (RiKy @ Jul 6 2013, 09:09 AM) *
I just love it biggrin.gif <3



More better, then the last 20 ^^

I adore the background! Specelly since it fits better then the original. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Tora @ Jul 6 2013, 01:10 PM) *
I adore the background! Specelly since it fits better then the original. biggrin.gif

Yeah, I think it too biggrin.gif
Better then the original japanese, but more more better, then the previous finnish manga backgrounds biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (RiKy @ Jul 6 2013, 02:03 PM) *
Yeah, I think it too biggrin.gif
Better then the original japanese, but more more better, then the previous finnish manga backgrounds biggrin.gif

Still, I kinda liked the previous background, if it had been some shades in the color, like on Detective Conan covers (Finnish and Swedish ones use the same). ^^
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post Jul 6 2013, 06:51 PM
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Getting adicted to those backgrounds instead of the original ^^
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I really wait for th enew cover.
I love these cover, may more better then the original xD
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Can some translate this? Found it on Hopeanuoli.com. Looks like to be about the late volume.

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07.08.2013
- Uusia yhteistyöläisiä, Antun Ginga Spiral ja Hopeatiikeri-blogi!

- Weed 21 on myöhässä tuntemattomasta syystä. Mutta tämän takia ei kannata repiä pelihousujaan. Muista nämä mangahyllyn edessä seisoessasi:
  • *Muutaman päivän, jopa viikon, myöhästyminen ei ole poikkeuksellista.
  • *Ilmoitetut julkaisupäivät ovat alustavia päivämääriä, eivät kiveen hakattu absoluuttinen totuus.
  • *Pokkarit ilmestyvät ensin suurten kaupunkien Akateemisiin kirjakauppoihin, joskus jopa viikkoa ennen kauppoja ja kioskeja.
  • *Ainoastaan yksi osa on unohdettu lähettää ajoissa painoon, se oli Weed #19. Se ei tarkoita, että kaikki myöhästymiset jatkossa johtuisivat samasta asiasta.
  • *Myöhästymisiä ei aiheuteta tahallaan.
  • *Julisteiden tai muun oheistavaran toivominen hyvitykseksi on (ainakin omasta mielestäni) hieman omahyväistä ja turhaa.
  • *Yhden kustantamon pokkarinjulkaisemismetodeja ei oikein voi verrata esim. paikkakuntasi sanomalehteen tai vaikkapa Aku Ankka -lehteen. Sen verran erilaisista asioista on kyse. Sanomalehti ja Aku Ankka ilmestyvät kyllä 99,9 % varmuudella aikataulussa, koska työskentelytavat ovat aivan erilaiset.
  • *Mangan parissa työstekentelevätkin ovat ihmisiä. Inhimillisiä virheitä voi tapahtua esimerkiksi stressin tai kiireen takia.
  • *Weed ei ole Punaisen jättiläisen/Sangatsu Mangan ainoa sarja; muutkin sarjat vaativat yhtälailla huomiota löytääkseen tiensä kaupan hyllylle. Yhtiöiden kaikkea mangajulkaisua luotsaa käytännössä yksi ihminen.
  • * Jos ihmettelet, miksi työn alla on monta sarjaa ja niiden julkaisua hoitaa vain yksi ihminen: manganjulkaisu ei lyö leiville, jos volyymi (tässä yhteydessä sarjojen määrä) ei ole tarpeeksi iso. Samasta syystä ei ilmeisesti ole varaa palkata vakituisiksi uusia toimittajia. Tällä hetkellä ollaan herkässä tasapainossa.
  • *Mangan saamiseksi kaupan hyllyyn se kulkee pitkän ketjun läpi. Ongelma voi tulla vastaan missä tahansa vaiheessa ketjua ja se vaikuttaa koko ketjuun:
  • -----*Japanin päässä ei olla tyytyväisiä johonkin
  • -----*Materiaalin muokkauksessa voi ilmetä ongelmia, esim. ohjelmisto-ongelmat, materiaalin myöhästyminen, tietoliikenneongelmat...
  • -----*Kääntäjälle voi tapahtua jotain (sairaus tmv.)
  • -----*Latojalle voi tapahtua jotain (sairaus tmv.)
  • -----*Kustantajalle voi tapahtua jotain (unohdus, sairaus, kiire...)
  • -----*Painaminen kestää 1-2 kk, siinä ajassa voi tulla heittoa suuntaan tai toiseen.
  • -----*Painotalolla voi tapahtua jotain (ohjelmisto-ongelmat, laiteviat, työntekijöiden ongelmat, tulipalo, painomateriaalin myöhästyminen, tavarantoimittajien myöhästelyt...)
  • -----*Painaminen tapahtuu Liettuassa. En tiedä, miten pokkarit kuljetetaan Suomeen, mutta kuljetuksen aikanakin voi ilmetä ongelmia: auto voi ajaa ojaan, jumittua Latvian, Viron ja Suomen tulleihin, ajaa kolarin, kuski voi sairastua... Lentoteitse tulevilla pokkareilla voi olla ongelmia lentokentällä: lentokoneen viat, lentokentän hätätilanteet, senhetkinen säätila, kerosiinin saatavuus, lentäjien terveys...
  • -----*Suomalaisilla (Lehtipisteen?) jakelufirmoilla voi ilmetä myös edellä mainittuja ongelmia; onhan pokkarit toimitettava ympäri maata nopeasti, ja siihen ei yksi ihminen pysty. Auto voi hajota, kuski voi sairastua jne.
  • *Mietihän: Gingaa ylipäätään julkaistaan Suomessa suomeksi! Se on hieno asia, josta kannattaa olla iloinen ja ylpeä! Suomi on ainoa länsimainen maa, jossa Gingaa on julkaistu: Ruotsi, Norja, Tanska ja Unkari ovat jääneet ilman, samoin kaikki englanninkieliset maat.
  • *Pääasia, että pokkari ilmestyy, vaikka myöhässä, kuin että sarjan julkaisu lopetettaisiin kesken, eikö?

Joten ymmärrystä ja kärsivällisyyttä, ihmiset! Totta kai teitä kunnioitetaan faneina ja kuluttajina, ja teille koitetaan tarjota parasta mahdollista laatua niin nopeasti ja kuluttajaystävällisin hinnoin kuin inhimillisesti mahdollista. Teitä ei "kiusata" tahallaan ja pokkareiden (jo tosin tavaksi tulleista) myöhästelyistä huolimatta älä revi pelihousujasi ja raivostu. Se ei auta mitään, vaan aiheuttaa huonon ilmapiirin fanien (ja varmasti myös kustannusyhtiön työntekijöiden) keskuuteen. Kiittäkää mieluummin seuraavalla kerralla, kun manga tuleekin ajoissa!

Tässä vielä blogipostaus kustantajan arjesta (Sangatsu Manngan blogi) ja toinen mielipidekirjoitus aiheesta (Hopeatiikeri-blogi).
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post Aug 8 2013, 12:36 AM
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It says that it's late "for unknown reasons". What follows is basically a long list of reasons for why people should not get all mad about it, such as "the people working on the series are just humans, after all, mistakes can happen", "delays are no caused on purpose", "Weed is not the only series the company is working on" and so on.
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post Aug 8 2013, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (Digsu @ Aug 8 2013, 01:36 AM) *
It says that it's late "for unknown reasons". What follows is basically a long list of reasons for why people should not get all mad about it, such as "the people working on the series are just humans, after all, mistakes can happen", "delays are no caused on purpose", "Weed is not the only series the company is working on" and so on.

Ah, ok. Makes sense. ^^
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post Aug 17 2013, 06:52 PM
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Vol 22 will be late. it will publish 21/08, not 03/08 tongue.gif
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Awww soo cool :3

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QUOTE (RiKy @ Aug 22 2013, 02:58 PM) *
Awww soo cool :3


Love background pic! ^^
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post Aug 27 2013, 12:34 AM
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Here's some news!

- There will be a new extra manga, including 1 volume.
It's suggested to have connection with GNG / GDW. I personally hope it's Ginga Densetsu Anju to Jirōmaru.

- All GNG Finnish volumes will be republished. They will be cheaper, having the price of 4,90€ (original price was 5,90€).
The first volume comes at November, the second comes at December and so on. The selling time for each volume will be 4 weeks.

- GDW Finnish volume 25 will include a bookmark, as a rebate since some volumes have been and will be a bit late.
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QUOTE (Chani @ Aug 27 2013, 01:34 AM) *
Here's some news!

- There will be a new extra manga, including 1 volume.
It's suggested to have connection with GNG / GDW. I personally hope it's Ginga Densetsu Anju to Jirōmaru.

- All GNG Finnish volumes will be republished. They will be cheaper, having the price of 4,90€ (original price was 5,90€).
The first volume comes at November, the second comes at December and so on. The selling time for each volume will be 4 weeks.

- GDW Finnish volume 25 will include a bookmark, as a rebate since some volumes have been and will be a bit late.

Iieeep!!
My money will run away from me! But love it! biggrin.gif

Either GDAtJ or Weed Gaiden I guess.

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QUOTE (Chani @ Aug 26 2013, 04:34 PM) *
Here's some news!

- There will be a new extra manga, including 1 volume.
It's suggested to have connection with GNG / GDW. I personally hope it's Ginga Densetsu Anju to Jirōmaru.

- All GNG Finnish volumes will be republished. They will be cheaper, having the price of 4,90€ (original price was 5,90€).
The first volume comes at November, the second comes at December and so on. The selling time for each volume will be 4 weeks.

- GDW Finnish volume 25 will include a bookmark, as a rebate since some volumes have been and will be a bit late.

Ah, I was wondering if they were republishing, thats good to hear!
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QUOTE (Chani @ Aug 27 2013, 12:34 AM) *
Here's some news!

- There will be a new extra manga, including 1 volume.
It's suggested to have connection with GNG / GDW. I personally hope it's Ginga Densetsu Anju to Jirōmaru.

- All GNG Finnish volumes will be republished. They will be cheaper, having the price of 4,90€ (original price was 5,90€).
The first volume comes at November, the second comes at December and so on. The selling time for each volume will be 4 weeks.

- GDW Finnish volume 25 will include a bookmark, as a rebate since some volumes have been and will be a bit late.


The republishing is such great news! I'm also guessing the extra manga could be the GDW data book, like the GNG book. Exciting to wait and see though =D
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QUOTE (Chani @ Aug 27 2013, 01:34 AM) *
Here's some news!

- There will be a new extra manga, including 1 volume.
It's suggested to have connection with GNG / GDW. I personally hope it's Ginga Densetsu Anju to Jirōmaru.

- All GNG Finnish volumes will be republished. They will be cheaper, having the price of 4,90€ (original price was 5,90€).
The first volume comes at November, the second comes at December and so on. The selling time for each volume will be 4 weeks.

- GDW Finnish volume 25 will include a bookmark, as a rebate since some volumes have been and will be a bit late.


OH, they are very good news biggrin.gif
I really sirious for the new manga ones, and for the bookmarkt *3*
And soo cool to the will be cheaper :3
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post Sep 4 2013, 06:13 PM
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Weed artbook will be translated into Finnish. We don't know yet about the price or the release date, but still, yay ^^ It will include the poster as well.
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QUOTE (taigin @ Sep 4 2013, 07:13 PM) *
Weed artbook will be translated into Finnish. We don't know yet about the price or the release date, but still, yay ^^ It will include the poster as well.

Iiiiieeeep!! Wonderful news!
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Oh man the art book! Even better! =D

QUOTE (taigin @ Jun 12 2013, 12:55 PM) *
Oulu, a city located in northern Finland, will have a Ginga themed anime convention 9.11.2013. Here's the official website, feel free to use Google translate. ;D
http://www.chibi.fi/

Oh I am so stoked about this. If things go well there will be super awesome things happening, for example a live Ginga auction organised by me. If I get the permission that is.


Is there any new info about this Ginga-themed convention? I'll talk to Crystal in more detail about it when new info comes out, but I think it would be cool to do a ginga guardian special like we did with Tracon and Animecon!
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QUOTE (taigin @ Sep 4 2013, 07:13 PM) *
Weed artbook will be translated into Finnish. We don't know yet about the price or the release date, but still, yay ^^ It will include the poster as well.

Cool! ^^
Though I must say, I really waited for a manga with text and story... Well, maybe next time. wink.gif
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QUOTE (taigin @ Sep 4 2013, 07:13 PM) *
Weed artbook will be translated into Finnish. We don't know yet about the price or the release date, but still, yay ^^ It will include the poster as well.



Awww, so cool biggrin.gif <3
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QUOTE (Arano @ Sep 4 2013, 10:36 PM) *
Is there any new info about this Ginga-themed convention? I'll talk to Crystal in more detail about it when new info comes out, but I think it would be cool to do a ginga guardian special like we did with Tracon and Animecon!

I dunno much of it, but I and Wolfie plans to go there. ^^
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QUOTE (Tora @ Sep 6 2013, 04:11 PM) *
I dunno much of it, but I and Wolfie plans to go there. ^^


Excellent! I hope more information comes out soon ^^
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The newest Weed (finnish) vol look like....:



it biggrin.gif
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Love the green theme in the cover. ^^
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Woww, how cool design biggrin.gif

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I kinda like this cover.
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